Showing posts with label Tannerman. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tannerman. Show all posts
Wednesday, September 18, 2019
Was Wojcek Krokowski - 'Sagres man with a camera' - the template for both 'Tannerman' and 'Smithman'?
Tony Bennett first wrote this article and propounded his hypothesis about Wojchiech Krokowski on 4 November 2014. MMRG revised and updated this article on 17 May 2019 - MMRG.
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I am propounding a new hypothesis.
I suggest that the description by Nuno Lourenco of the man who he says 'tried to kidnap' his 3-year-old daughter at Sagres was used by Jane Tanner as the basis for 'Tannerman' and by the Smiths as the basis for 'Smithman'.
Lourenco says he saw a man on Sagres beach covertly and then openly photographing children. He says that later the same day, the same man tried to kidnap his daughter. However, he did not report this apparently terrifying incident until Saturday 5 May, several days later. The man was then identified as Wojcek (also spelt Woychiech) Krokowski, a Polish man from Warsaw who had holidayed with his wife at the Solimar (Sol e Mar) apartments, Burgau, from Saturday, 28 April to Saturday, 5 May 2007.
There are a great number of strange aspects about this sighting. For now, I'll just mention three of them:
On what date did this incident with the man on the beach with a camera occur?
Dr Goncalo Amaral in his book says it occurred Thursday 26 April. The Daily Telegraph report of 12 May 2007 says it was Monday 30 April, the same day as the McCanns were there. But Nuno Lourencos’s statement says it occurred on Sunday 29 April. That hardly gives us confidence that this story is true.
Did the McCanns actually visit Sagres, as claimed in newspaper reports?
It was an integral part of the stories in a number of British mainstream newspapers on 11 and 12 May 2007. The press coverage clearly pointed the finger at this man - possibly a paedophile - with a camera. It was stated as a fact in these articles that the McCanns were on Sagres beach on Monday 30 April and openly stated that this man with a camera might have seen Madeleine that day amnd decided to abduct her. It lent dramatic extra weight to the claim that Madeleine had been abducted. Yet in Dr Kate McCann’s account of events that week in her 2011 book, ‘madeleine’, there is no mention of any visit to Sagres, let alone a ‘day trip’. Also, all three of their children were signed in and out of the crèche at the Ocean Club that day.
Why was this apparently frightening incident not reported straightaway to the police?
Lourenco says the incident took place on Sunday 29 April. He did nothing to report it. He says he saw the man again in Friday 4 May at a car rentals office in Sagres. He says he spoke to his wife about seeing the man again. His wife mentioned the abduction of Madeleine McCann. His wife suggested that he should report the incidents concerning this man to the police. He only did so, however, the following morning, by which time Krokowski and his wife were already in mid-air on a flight from Faro to Berlin. There is no evidence that Krokowski is a paedophile and I cannot find any evidence of any other witnesses who back up Lourenco's story about the two incidents at Sagres.
The description of Wojcek Krokowski = the man on the beach with a camera = 'Sagres man'
The description given by Lourenco of Krokowski is of great interest, as it is remarkably similar to those given by Jane Tanner of 'Tannerman' and the Smiths of 'Smithman'.
Here is the description, direct from his statement, which can be viewed here:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm
1. masculine,
2. Caucasian
3. with Latin colouring,
4. curly dark brown hair
5. that ran to his neck
6. and in a pony tail
7. between 35/40 years of age,
8. of medium complexion,
9. and around 170 to 175 cm in height.
He did not have any distinguishing marks or signs and did not wear rings or other jewellery.
10. He wore a cream coloured beach hat,
11. He also wore dark glasses
12. He wore cloth trousers
13. and a coat/jacket of the same material
14. which was cream coloured
15. and was almost the same colour to the hat he had worn previously.
16. His shoes, he thinks, were dark brown…
17. …and of the type that need to be shined or polished [i.e. leather].
The uncanny similarities between Sagres man, Tannerman and Smithman
Here they are:
1. FACE
Tannerman: Dark-skinned individual, couldn’t see his face
Sagres (Polish) man: Caucasian with Latin colouring…’of medium complexion’
Smithman: Difficult to see his face in the dark, didn’t appear to have a beard or moustache
2. AGE
Tannerman: Aged 35-40
Sagres (Polish) man: Between 35-40 years of age
Smithman: Martin Smith says 35-40, Peter Smith says ‘about 35, maybe older’, while Aoife Smith suggests ‘20-30’
3. HEIGHT
Tannerman: About 1.7m tall (5’ 7”)
Sagres (Polish) man: Around 170 to 175 cm in height (5’ 7” - 5’ 9”)
Smithman: Martin and Peter Smith say he was about 1.75m to 1.80m tall (5’ 9” - 5’11”); Aoife Smith says 1.7 to 1.75m (5’ 7” - 5’ 9”)
4. HAIR
Tannerman: Very dark, thick hair, longer at the back
Sagres (Polish) man: Curly, dark brown hair that ran down to the back of his neck, and in a pony tail
Smithman: All the Smiths say his hair was brown and shortish; Aiofe says his hair colour was ‘light brown’, ‘thick’ and ‘long on top‘
5. JACKET
Tannerman: Wearing a dark ‘duffy’ sic type jacket (but not that thick), a sort of anorak, of the same material as his trousers
Sagres (Polish) man: He wore a cream-coloured cloth coat/jacket, of the same material as his trousers
Smithman: The man was wearing a dark jacket. Martin Smith couldn’t remember what top the man was wearing when first questioned, but later ‘remembered’ that he wore ‘a darkish top, maybe a jacket or blazer’
6. TROUSERS
Tannerman: He was wearing linen type ‘chino style’ cloth trousers, beige to golden in colour, like ‘corticite’, of the same material as his jacket
Sagres (Polish) man: He wore cloth trousers, of the same material as his jacket
Smithman: The man was wearing light-coloured trousers. Aoife Smith says: “beige in colour, cotton fabric, thicker than linen…”. Martin Smith says: “He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut…”
7. SHOES
Tannerman: His shoes were dark in colour, classic type
Sagres (Polish) man: His shoes, he thinks, were dark brown…and of the type that need to be shined or polished [i.e. leather]. In his book, Dr Goncalo Amaral says they were ‘shoes of a classic type’
Smithman: (no comments made)
8. BUILD
Tannerman: Slim physical appearance
Sagres (Polish) man: (no comment made)
Smithman: The Smiths all say ‘average build’, except that Martin Smith says: “He had an average build, a bit on the thin side”
9. NOT A TOURIST
Tannerman: By the way he was dressed, he gave her the impression that he was not a tourist, because he was very "warmly dressed".
Sagres man: (no comment made, but Dr Goncalo Amaral writes in his book (Chapter 3): “The stranger did not look like a tourist”
Smithman: The man didn’t look like a tourist. The Portuguese police report Martin Smith’s evidence on this point as follows says: “Urged, he states that the individual did not appear to be a tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception given the individual's clothing”.
Then there is the Robert Murat connection to this story, which may or not be relevant
Krokowski and his wife stayed in the Solimar apartments that week, which were apparently built by Robert Murat's father and are still maintained by his father's company
The main witness to Krokwoski's activities that week is a staff member who recalls them dining at his Burgau beach bar several times, talking about football, discussing Portuguese and Brazilian music, and taking a trip to an Algarve shopping centre.
The beach bar is said to be owned by Robert Murat's uncle, Ralph Eveleigh - who of course hosted the now-fabled meeting at their villa, Salsalito', on 13 November 2007 between Team Murat (Murat, his mother, aunt, uncle and lawyer Francisco Pagarete) and Team McCann (Cheshire businessman Brian Kennedy and the McCanns' co-ordinating lawyer, Director of Madeleine's Fund and top-ranking Freemason, Edward Smethurst).
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For discussion, please visit this thread: https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t10602-was-wojcek-krokowski-sagres-man-with-a-camera-the-template-for-both-tannerman-and-smithman
Wednesday, July 3, 2019
The Controversial 'Smithman' debate
Dr Julian Totman aka 'Tannerman'
DCI Redwood, having ruled out 'Tannerman' and declaring this 'a revelation moment', made 'Smithman' the focus of Operation Grange's enquiry. To date, no one has come forward to eliminate himself from their enquiries, although many people believe 'Smithman' was Gerry McCann carrying his recently deceased daughter through the streets of Praia da Luz to find her first hiding place - a place so secret and secure that the many Police and Police dogs failed to find her.
For anyone interested in this subject, here are a list of all the topics from the CMOMM forum:
The Theory that Smithman = Gerry McCann – CAREFULLY EXPLAINED
FOI request: Met Police - questions about smithman
FOI Act 2000 request made 30 Nov 2015 - OPERATION GRANGE - Smithman, Tannerman, Closure of Case, Final Report
l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun: Smithman
Pat Brown - is still claiming, like Operation Grange and the McCanns, that 'Smithman' is the key to solving the Madeleine McCann mystery - and dismissing the evidence the Last Photo was taken on Sunday as 'irrelevant'
Spanish TV use Gerry's face morphed onto Smithman
The efits produced by the Smiths, has the man been found yet?
SMITHMAN 2 - What can account for the 17 remarkable similarities between Tannerman and Smithman?
SMITHMAN 3 - The e-fits - two different people, or the same man?
SMITHMAN 5: The evidence of the Smith family from Drogheda, Ireland: the TWELVE sets of contradictions
SMITHMAN 12: Can anyone who still believes that the Smiths saw Gerry McCann carrying Madeleine satisfactorily answer ANY of these 60 Questions ?
Friday, June 28, 2019
Madeleine McCann and the Strange Story of the two Crimewatch E-fits
by Gemma Fairweather, October 2014

Image A Image B
A. Introduction
My article would be a very long one if I went into all the
background and all the issues involved behind the unveiling, on the BBC
CrimeWatch Special of 14 October 2013, of these two e-fits, allegedly of
the man who is now the chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine
McCann.
So my introduction will be brief, and what follows will be little
more than a series of notes and questions. My aim is to introduce this
complex subject to the many people not aware of the many intricacies of
the Madeleine McCann case. I want to give the context in which those two
images were unveiled on CrimeWatch.
These two images were first revealed to 6.7 million viewers of BBC
CrimeWatch in October last year (2013), and around the same time they
were published in all Britain’s mainstream print and TV media. They were
presented as the face of the new suspect.
We were meant to believe that this new suspect had been seen by
members of an Irish family at around 10.00pm on 3 May 2007, the night
Madeleine was reported missing. As you will see from what follows, I
believe those millions of viewers were seriously and deliberately misled
- by one of the country’s top police officers.
B. The ‘sighting’ by Jane Tanner

Up to the very moment of this broadcast, the entire world had been looking for an entirely different suspect - this man:
This was a sketch made by Melisa Little, on behalf of the McCann
Team, of the man said to have been seen by Jane Tanner - one of the
McCanns’ close friends - at around 9.15pm the night Madeleine was
reported missing.
For nearly six-and-a-half years, this man, if he ever existed, was the No. 1 suspect.
I say ‘if he ever existed’ because there were numerous serious problems with this claimed sighting. Here are just a few of them:
She reported her claimed sighting to her partner, Russell O’Brien.
He then wrote out a timeline of the evening’s events, placing this
sighting at 9.15pm or 9.20pm. Yet Jane Tanner claimed that she did not
tell the McCanns or their other friends about her sighting because she
thought it would ‘upset them’. This is barely credible, especially when
you consider that her partner, Russell O’Brien, wrote down details of
her claimed sighting on the ripped-off cover of an Activity Sticker Book
belonging to Madeleine. The McCanns themselves must have given O’Brien
that sticker book
As time went on, Jane Tanner’s recollections about what she claimed
she had seen kept getting more detailed - contrary to how memory
normally operates
She kept changing her story about how far away she was away from the man she claimed to have seen
Immediately before her sighting, she claimed to have walked right
past Gerry McCann and his friend Jez Wilkins. But neither of them
remembers seeing her.
The Portuguese Police found her statements evasive - and believed from Day One that she had fabricated her sighting
Despite the apparent urgency of identifying this man, the McCann
Team did not produce a sketch of this man until a full 5½ months after 3
May. It would be virtually useless after such a lapse of time.
The timings of Gerry McCann leaving his apartment (about 9.10pm)
and Jane Tanner claiming to have seen the man carrying a child (9.15pm)
meant that any abductor would have to achieve the impossible within the
space of less than 5 minutes:
- enter the apartment without being seen or heard,
- find Madeleine in the dark,
- pick her up without waking her,
- have time to open both the window and shutters from the inside without being heard,
- and then escape the apartment, again without being seen by anyone except Jane Tanner.
It was never a credible story.
A. How the Metropolitan Police say they found ‘Tannerman’
Now, the only reason we were told on BBC CrimeWatch to look for the
man seen by the Irish family is because DCI Andy Redwood, the Head of
Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange - the name of the investigation into
the disappearance of Madeleine McCann -, told us in that broadcast that
after 6½ years of looking for the man that Jane Tanner said she’s seen
(often called ‘Tannerman’), we should immediately stop doing so.
Why?
Because DCI Redwood said he’d found him!
For DCI Redwood, this was ‘a revelation moment’, something ‘interesting’ and ‘exciting’, as he breathlessly told his viewers.
A man had come forward - after 6½ years, so DCI Redwood told us - to say that he was probably the man seen by Jane Tanner.
Of course, DCI Redwood didn’t do anything simple like tell us who
this person was, a man who had apparently only just realised he was the
very man that police forces and the public around the world had been
looking for, for all this time.
Here is how DCI Redwood, and presenter Matthew Amroliwala on BBC
CrimeWatch, described the man who had apparently come forward (the full
transcript is in an appendix to this article)::
Redwood: “One of the things that we picked up very quickly was the
fact that there was a night crèche that was operating from the main
Ocean Club reception - and 8 families had left 11 children in there, and
one particular family we spoke to gave us information…they themselves
believed that they could be the ‘Tanner sighting’.”
Amroliwala: “The British father had collected his 2-year-old
daughter from the crèche. He had been walking near the McCanns’
apartment. This is the actual photograph taken by Metropolitan Police
officers of the man, dressed in the kind of clothes he wore on holiday.
This image was compared to the artist’s impression” [what was alleged to
be a photo of the alleged ‘man from the creche’ was shown to viewers,
alongside the artist’s impression of Tannerman. They did look very
similar].
Redwood: “It is uncannily similar, and we know that the pyjamas
their child was wearing, that it is, again, uncannily striking, the
similarity”.
The sudden revelation that ‘Tannerman’ might not be the abductor after all raised a number of important questions.
B. Exactly who was this man (‘Crecheman’) that ‘came forward’ and
said it was him who saw a man carrying sa child at 9.15pm on 3 May 2007?
The question that occurred to most people was: Why, if this man had
indeed been walking back from the creche past the McCanns’ apartment at
around 9.15pm, had he not bothered to come forward for 6 years?
But there were other questions.
It was soon noted by a number of Madeleine McCann researchers that
if the man had been walking south-eastwards past the McCanns’ apartment,
as claimed by Jane Tanner, then he could not have been taking the
shortest route back to wherever he was staying (a map is necessary to
fully illustrate this point).
Then there were question marks about the family involved.
Redwood and Amroliwala, in the CrimeWatch programme, made these references to the family (see also appendix):
· 8 families had left 11 children in [the creche]
· and one particular family we spoke to
· having discussed with them
· what they were doing on the night
· they themselves believed
· that they could be the ‘Tanner sighting’.
You can see for yourself that three times above, Redwood &
Amroliwala use the word ‘they’. In addition, they refer twice to ‘the
family’, and once to ‘them’.
So it is clear that they are talking about a couple - man and wife, or man and partner and child.
Now, if ‘they’, the parents, had put their child in the crèche, say whilst they had gone out for a meal, why would the man be…
· on his own
· without a buggy
· carrying a child dressed only in pyjamas?
This doesn’t make sense, does it? Where is the mother in this story
which was put forward by Redwood & Amroliwala to 6.7 million
trusting CrimeWatch viewers?
Is it credible that this man who had apparently left his
two-year-old in the crèche would have done so without (a) having some
sort of buggy or pushchair and (b) without having warmer clothing for
carrying home his child on what we know was a cold early May night in
Portugal? ;l
I invite you to share with me my view that there is very good
reason to doubt whether this man - suddenly ‘found’ after more than six
years - ever existed. Would it not be a lot more credible had DCI
Redwood actually named him?).
C. The claimed ‘sighting’ by the Irish family: The basic facts
Anyway, this device of ‘finding’ (or, as I suggest, inventing)
Crecheman enabled DCI Redwood to identify, as his new chief suspect, a
man said to have been seen by the Smith family, from Drogheda, Ireland.
It’s to this alleged sighting that I now wish to turn.
The brief facts about this claimed sighting are these:
1. Martin Smith, his wife and his two children Peter aged 29 and
Aoife, 12, and five other family members were holidaying in the
apartment the family owned in Praia da Luz, on the day Madeleine was
reported missing.
2. Martin Smith knew local man (and the first suspect in the case)
Robert Murat. The two had met, according to the Smiths themselves, ‘on
several occasions’.
3. The Smiths later claimed they saw a man carrying a child at
around 10.00pm on the night Madeleine went missing, somewhere between
the Ocean Club, where the McCanns were having dinner that night, and the
beach.
4. But none of them did anything about this until two weeks later.
5. The day after Robert Murat was made a suspect (15 May 2007),
Martin Smith’s son Peter is said (by Martin & Peter Smith) to have
‘phoned his father and asked if his father remembered seeing a man
carrying a child on 3 May.
6. This is what Martin Smith said on the record about this
telephone call: “We were home two weeks [actually 13 days] when my son
rang up and asked was he dreaming or did we meet a man carrying a child
the night Madeleine was taken. We all remembered that we had the same
recollection. I felt we should report it to the police". They then
reported their sighting to the Irish Gardai on 16 May
7. Martin Smith, Peter and Aoife flew to Portugal and on 26 May
made formal statements to the Portuguese about what they claimed to have
seen. They all said or admitted the following:
· it was dark
· the street lighting was poor
· they only saw the man for a few seconds, and
· they would not be able to recognise him again if they saw him.
8. In addition, there are contradictions in what they have said about this man and the child, which I deal with below.
9. On 9 September, four months after Madeleine was reported
missing, Martin Smith says he was watching TV news footage of the
McCanns walking down the steps of a plane, each carrying one of their
children, as they landed back in England.
10. On 20 September, 11 days later, he made an emotional statement
to Detective Liam Hogan of the Irish Gardai claiming that he was ‘60% to
80% sure’, by the way Gerry McCann was carrying his son Sean, that he
was the very man he had seen carrying a child on the evening of 3 May.
Martin Smith’s claim has since been widely viewed by members of the
public as wholly lacking in credibility.
11. At no time did the Portuguese police attempt to get the Smiths to draw up e-fits of the man they said they had seen.
12. On 3 January, a series of newspaper stories in the British
press reported that Martin Smith had been approached by Brian Kennedy, a
senior member of the McCann Team who was conducting so-called ‘private
investigations’ for the McCanns into Madeleine’s disappearance. Kennedy
had appointed the controversial Spanish detective agency Metodo 3 as
part of his investigation team. Martin Smith said that Metodo 3
detectives wanted to see him.
13. In an article in the Evening Standard in August 2009, Mark
Hollingsworth alleged that men employed by Brian Kennedy, in his private
Madeleine McCann investigation, had intimidated some witnesses in the
case so severely that they now refused to give evidence.
14. We know from a number of published sources that a member, or
members, of Kennedy’s investigation team met the Smiths at least once
during 2008. Neither the McCanns nor Brian Kennedy nor the Smiths have
supplied any details of when and why these meetings took place.
15. At this time, Kennedy was employing a team of investigators
from a one-man-band company, Oakley International (‘Oakley’), formed
after Madeleine McCann was reported missing. Oakley’s sole Director was
Kevin Halligen, a man who, after working for the McCanns for a fee of £½
million plus expenses, went on the run from police, wanted for a number
of major frauds. He was arrested in 2009, and spent four years in
Belmarsh top security prison and a U.S. jail for his crimes, eventually
being released in early 2013.
16. Halligen’s main assistant at this time was Henri Exton,
formerly the Head of Covert Intelligence for MI5. He was later sacked by
MI5 after being charged by Greater Manchester Police for stealing a
bottle of perfume from a shop at Manchester Airport.
17. According to an article in the Sunday Times on 27 October 2013,
Exton had produced the two e-fits shown by DCI Redwood of Operation
Grange on 14 October. He claimed to have produced them in 2008. He
alleged that the McCanns had ‘suppressed’ them, an allegation strongly
denied by the McCanns [ NOTE: In September this year (2014) it was
announced that the Sunday Times had paid the McCanns £55,000
compensation for their alleged libel ].
18. On the BBC CrimeWatch McCann Special in October 2013, both DCI
Andy Redwood and CrimeWatch presenter Matthew Amroliwala intended
viewers to believe that the Irish family (the Smiths) drew up these
e-fits. But after referring to the family, the chosen words used by
presenter Amroliwala were that the e-fits had been drawn up ‘by two of
the witnesses‘, not (which he could easily have said) ‘by two members of
the Irish family’. Many have asked why he did not use those words, but
instead used the ambiguous phrase: ‘two of the witnesses’.
19. The Metropolitan Police have admitted on the record that they
interviewed Martin Smith ‘once in 2012’ and ‘once in 2013’. This would
tend to suggest that Martin Smith has co-operated with DCI Redwood’s
attempt to claim that these e-fits are probably of the person who
abducted Madeleine - and to pass them off as having been made up from
the Smiths’ recollections. But of course neither DCI Andy Redwood nor
Martin Smith will say what was discussed at these two meetings.
I am now ready to begin my analysis of the puzzles and
contradictions surrounding these e-fits and the alleged sighting by the
Smiths.
D. Why we can’t accept what DCI Redwood told us about the two e-fits?
1. He maintained that the two e-fits were of ‘the same man’. But most people think the images are clearly of two different men.
2. If you compare the man pictured in Image A with the one pictured in Image B, the man in Image A:
· looks older
· has a ‘fatter’ face
· has a rectangular face (Image B man has a triangular-shaped face)
· has curly hair, apparently brushed back
· has a much shorter nose
· has a much bigger chin, and
· has smaller ears.
3. On the CrimeWatch programme, the presenter did not explicitly say that the images were drawn up by the Irish family.
4. DCI Redwood has not, and cannot adequately explain why these
e-fits were first produced five years previously (2008), but never used.
5. It would have been impossible for any of the Smiths to have drawn up either of these two images, for these reasons:
(a) as we saw above, each of the three members of the Smith family, when interviewed by the Portuguese police, admitted that:
· it was dark
· the street lighting was poor
· they only saw the man for a few seconds
· they would not be able to recognise him again if they saw him, and
(b) according to the limited information we have, if the Smiths did
indeed draw up these two e-fits, they probably did so sometime between
May and October 2008, which would have been 12 to 17 months after they
say they saw the man - far too long after the event to be able to
produce a valid e-fit, as police procedures accept and acknowledge.
E. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 1: The
Smiths’ different stated reasons for their delay inReporting their
claimed sighting
REASON 1: My son ’phoned me up two weeks after we got back and asked “Am I dreaming, or did we meet a man carrying a child…?”
Statement given to Irish newspapers:
[ NOTE: The probable date of Peter Smith’s ‘phone call to his
father (if it happened at all) was 16 May, but could have been 17 or 18
May ]:
Martin Smith is quoted as saying: “We were home two weeks when my
son rang up and asked was he dreaming or did we meet a man carrying a
child the night Madeleine was taken. We all remembered that we had the
same recollection. I felt we should report it to the police".
3 January 2008, Daily Mail:
“Initially the Smith family thought nothing more of the encounter -
and even the next day when the story broke they still didn't make the
connection. ‘We were home two weeks when my son rang me up and asked was
he dreaming or did we meet a man carrying a child the night Madeleine
was taken? We all remembered the same recollection, and I felt we should
report it to the police’, said Mr Smith”.
‘We only remembered him after coming home’, Drogheda Independent, 9 January 2008:
Peter Smith also told the Drogheda Independent: “…it was only after
we were home two weeks that I remembered seeing him. At the time my
attention was focused on looking after my wife. When I mentioned it, it
jogged my father's memory and he too remembered seeing the same man’.
Peter Smith added. ‘We knew that what we had seen was so vague that we
couldn't identify the guy’.”
‘If only we’d remembered the next day’, Daily Mail, 3 January 2008
Martin Smith: “We've all been beating ourselves up that we should
have made the link sooner, if only we'd remembered the next day. But the
Portuguese police said you see these things on holiday all the time” [
NOTE: When did the Portuguese police ever say that to him? - we have no
details ].
REASON 2: On 4 May ‘I thought it could have been Madeleine’
Statement made to PJ:
“He only became aware of Madeleine’s disappearance ‘the next
morning’, from his daughter in Ireland. She had sent him a message or
called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that
Madeleine could have been the child he saw with the individual”.
REASON 3: ‘We only reported our sighting because we eventually found out about the exact time of the sighting’
Peter Smith: It was the coincidence of the time
Peter Smith’s statement: “Urged, states that when he passed this
individual it would have been around 21H55/22H00, and at the time he was
completely unaware that a child had disappeared. He only found out
about the disappearance of the child the next morning through someone he
knew, the son of the builder of Estrela da Luz, who was also at the
airport. The witness went to the airport given that, as planned, he
intended to return to Ireland on that day
— At that time he did not associate the said individual with the
disappearance, only after thinking on the subject and the coincidence of
the time did he infer that MADELEINE could have been the child carried
by the individual that he had seen.
We found out the exact time Madeleine disappeared
Drogheda Independent, 8 August 2007 – article based on interview
with ‘a family member - possibly Peter Smith: “They returned to Ireland
the next day, and because the reported abduction times didn't originally
match, they never had cause to examine their journey that night.
“As it emerged that Madeleine was abducted around the same time,
one of the family members [Peter Smith – see above] had a flashback of
the moment some time later and encouraged the others to jog their
memory”.
“They remembered passing a man walking towards the beach with a child in his arms.
Other than his approximate height and the fact that he was wearing
beige clothes they cannot be more specific than that. 'We are annoyed at
how vague our description is’, said the family member.
Sun, 3 January 2008: The time of Maddie’s abduction was revealed
“The Smiths were leaving Kelly's Bar…between 9.50 and 10pm on May 3 last year.
“They flew home to Ireland the next day, but when the times of
Maddie's abduction were revealed, the family remembered seeing a man,
5ft 7in to 5ft 9in tall and dressed in beige, carrying the child.
Significantly the description matches that given by Jane Tanner, 37, a
friend of the McCanns.
REASON 4: The descriptions matched
The description was similar to Tanner’s; Daily Mail, 3 January 2008
“Their description of the barefoot child and the man, who wore
beige trousers, echoes that of Miss Tanner…Though the Smith family
believe they met an almost identical man closer to 10pm, the coincidence
prompted them to contact police after they returned to Ireland. Mr
Smith said: ‘Luz is such a small place and so quiet, we felt a duty to
tell the police and let them decide if it was important’."
REASON 5. ‘The Portuguese police were too busy’
[ NOTE: This story appeared in the Daily Mirror on 16 October 2013,
two days after the BBC CrimeWatch McCann Special. It had the hallmarks
of a story facilitated by the McCann Team. It included several quotes
from Martin Smith ]:
“A key witness in the Madeleine McCann case claimed yesterday that Portuguese police failed to take his evidence seriously.
“Retired businessman Martin Smith, 64, provided details for an
e-fit of the prime suspect after spotting the mystery man carrying a
child at 10pm close to where the three-year-old vanished more than six
years ago”
“But he said his information was virtually ignored by local
officers because they were too busy chasing up another sighting of a man
near Kate and Gerry McCann’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz 45
minutes earlier”.
“Scotland Yard detectives reinvestigating the case after six years
have now established that the suspect Portuguese police were so keen to
trace - spotted by holidaymaker Jane Tanner at 9.20pm - was just an
innocent British tourist returning with his own child from a crèche”.
[ NOTES: 1. This is the first time that Martin Smith has ever
claimed that he had contacted the Portuguese police and that they
‘failed to take his evidence seriously’
2. The way the article reads totally misleads readers by suggesting that the Portuguese police took details for an e-fit, yet went on to ignore this
3. It is also misleading in suggesting that the police were ‘too busy chasing up the sighting of another man, ‘Tannerman’. In fact (a) the police were suspicious of Tanner’s claimed ‘sighting’ from Day One, and (b) as we know from Dr Goncalo Amaral’s book, he did take the Smiths’ sighting seriously ]
2. The way the article reads totally misleads readers by suggesting that the Portuguese police took details for an e-fit, yet went on to ignore this
3. It is also misleading in suggesting that the police were ‘too busy chasing up the sighting of another man, ‘Tannerman’. In fact (a) the police were suspicious of Tanner’s claimed ‘sighting’ from Day One, and (b) as we know from Dr Goncalo Amaral’s book, he did take the Smiths’ sighting seriously ]
H. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 2: We didn’t think anything of it’, or a ‘disturbing encounter’?
1. Mary Smith: We didn’t think anything of it’
In the Sun, 3 January 2008, Mary Smith is asked about the claimed ‘sighting’ and says “We didn’t think anything of it”.
2. Mary Smith approached the man
In the Daily Mail, 3 January 2008, Smith claims that, without
warning, she approached the man with the question: ‘Oh, is she asleep?’
He is said to have ignored her. [ NOTE: Mary Smith never made a formal
statement to the police, so far as we know ]
3. Martin Smith said it was a ‘disturbing encounter’
In the same Daily Mail article, 3 January 2008, Martin Smith is quoted as saying that “It was a disturbing encounter”.
4. 'Very unusual'
In the same Daily Mail report, 3 January 2008, we read:
“AN IRISH holidaymaker has spoken publicly for the first time of
his disturbing encounter with a man carrying a child wrapped in a
blanket on the night Madeleine McCann disappeared.
“…the sighting…is strikingly similar to one by a friend of the
McCanns, Jane Tanner. In hindsight, the retired Mr Smith said, the man’s
rude behaviour should have aroused his suspicions.
“Martin Smith said: ‘The one thing we noted afterwards was that he
gave us no greeting. My wife Mary remembered afterwards that she asked
him: 'Oh, is she asleep?' But he never acknowledged her one way or
another. He just put his head down and averted his eyes. This is very
unusual in a tourist town at such a quiet time of the year".
5 . Madeleine's disappearance 'had a terrible effect on the children'
Again from the Daily Mail, 3 January 2008: “Mr Smith said it was
some time before the family realised they could be star witnesses: ‘We
were out the night it happened…We went home about 9.50pm and we heard
nothing at all about Madeleine McCann until the next day. I was taking
my son Peter to the airport and on my way back, I heard that a
kidnapping had happened in the village of Luz”.
"We were looking at all the commotion on Sky News and we really
felt quite helpless. We had two grandchildren with us at the time, aged
four and five, and it had a terrible effect on them. They all wanted to
sleep in the same room as us until we went home on the Wednesday”
[ NOTE: Despite this ‘terrible effect’, the Smiths did nothing until 16-18 May, 13 to 15 days later ]
I. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 3: The man lowered his head – or didn’t lower his head?
1. He didn’t lower his head - Peter Smith:
From Peter Smith’s statement: down: Quote: “…he did not try to hide his face nor did he lower his gaze”.]
2. He did lower his head: - Martin Smith:
From Martin Smith’s statement: “He put his head down…”
J. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 4: How did Martin Smith find out about Madeleine’s kidnapping?
1. From my daughter In Ireland
Quote from news article: “He only became aware of Madeleine’s
disappearance ‘the next morning’, from his daughter in Ireland. She had
sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this
point he thought that Madeleine could have been the child he saw with
the individual”.
2. Someone at the airport told Peter Smith
QUOTE: “He didn’t find out about Madeleine’s disappearance until
the morning of 4 May through someone he knew, the son of the builder of
Estrela da Luz, who was also at the airport, as he (Peter Smith) was
waiting for his return flight to Ireland”.]
[ NOTE: Yet there had been police sirens heard in the village
before 11pm on the night Madeleine was reported missing - and by the
early morning of 4 May, Praia da Luz was crawling with police and
villagers looking for Madeleine ]
K. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 5: Was the child covered with a blanket - or not?
In the Daily Mail report, 3 January 2008, we read:
“AN IRISH holidaymaker has spoken publicly for the first time of
his disturbing encounter with a man carrying a child wrapped in a
blanket on the night Madeleine McCann disappeared”.
Yet the Smiths in their statements to the Portuguese police say the
child was dressed only in pyjamas and was not covered by a blanket.
L. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No.6: How often had Martin Smith met Robert Murat?
1. Twice, in May and August 2006
From Martin Smith’s statement:
— Adds that in May and August of 2006, he saw ROBERT MURAT in Praia
da Luz bars. On one of these occasions, the first, he was inebriated
and spoke to everyone. He did not wear glasses at that time. He also
states that the individual who carried the child was not ROBERT. He
would have recognised him immediately.
2. Met him ‘only once’ – two years ago
Drogheda Independent - 8 August 2007
“The family contacted the Portuguese police and flew back over to give evidence.
However, contrary to media reports, Mr Smith had not seen chief
suspect Robert Murat in a bar the evening that Madeleine was abducted.
'He definitely didn't see him on the night in question,' said a family
member.
“The family are also mystified at reports that he knows Mr Murat.
'They met once in a bar about two years ago. My Dad would only knows Mr
Murat by sight,' said the family member. 'However, from what he knows,
he can say that the man who was carrying the child was not Robert
Murat”.
3. ‘Met him several times’
SKY News, 4 January 2008
“An Irish tourist who saw someone carrying a child in a blanket on
the night Madeleine McCann disappeared insists that the mystery man was
not Robert Murat… Mr Smith is certain that the man he and his family saw
that night was not Robert Murat, who is still officially an ‘arguido’
in the Madeleine McCann investigation.
“Martin Smith said: ‘I told police it was definitely not him
because the man wasn't as big as Murat - I think I would have recognised
him because I'd met him several times previously”.
4. ‘I’ve known him for years’
From the Daily Mail, 3 January 2008: “Insisting he knew chief
suspect Robert Murat visually for years, Mr Smith told police the person
he saw carrying a child could not be him”.
M. Descriptions of the man they claimed to have seen, from their own statements
I am adding here all the specific things that each of the three
Smith family members said about the man they claimed to have seen.
We already have all the following problems about believing whether
any of the Smiths could possibly have drawn up either of the two e-fits
of what look like (to many people) two quite different people:
1. It was dark
2. The street lighting was week
3. They only saw him for a few seconds at the most
4. None of them said they would be able to recognize him again
5. The e-fits appear to have been drawn up between May and October
2008 - from 12 to 17 months after the event - far too late to draw up a
valid e-fit, let alone two e-fits of what look to most people like two
different men,
Here are the relevant extracts from their statements:
Aoife Smith, 26 May 2007
The individual was male, Caucasian, light-skinned, between 20/30
years of age, of normal physical build, around 1,70/1,75 metres in
height. At the time she saw his face but now cannot remember it. She
thinks that he had a clean-shaven face. She does not remember seeing
tattoos, scars or earrings. She did not notice his ears. His hair was
thick-ish, light brown in colour, short at the back (normal) and a bit
longer on the top.
— His trousers were smooth "rights" along the legs, beige in
colour, cotton fabric, thicker than linen, possibly with buttons, and
without any other decoration.
— She did not see what he was wearing above his trousers as the child covered him almost completely at the top.
— She did not see what shoes he was wearing.
— The individual's gait was normal, between a fast walk and a run.
He did not look tired, moving in a manner usual when one carries a
child.
Peter Smith, 26 May 2007
The description of the individual who carried the child was:
Caucasian, around 175 to 180 cm tall. About 35 years, or older. He was
somewhat tanned as a result of sun exposure. Average build, in good
shape. Short hair, brown in colour. He does not remember if he wore
glasses, or had a beard or a moustache. He did not notice any other
relevant details as the lighting was bad.
— He also does not remember the clothing the individual wore or his
shoes. He states that he did not notice those details as his pregnant
wife was somewhat ill and he was constantly attending to her, not caring
about observation of the individual.
He states that [the man] carried the child on his arms, with the
head resting on the left shoulder, as such on the right of the deponent,
appearing to him in a natural manner.
Drogheda Independent, 9 January 2008
Quote: [Peter Smith] went on: ‘We knew that what we had seen was so vague that we couldn't identify the guy’.”
Martin Smith, 26 May 2007
Regarding the description of the individual who carried the child
he states that: he was Caucasian, around 175 to 180m in height. He
appeared to be about 35/40 years old. He had an average build, a bit on
the thin side. His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour.
He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear
glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other
relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very
good.
— He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a
classic cut. He did not see his shoes. He did not notice the body
clothing and cannot describe the colour or fashion of the same.
Urged, he states that the individual did not appear to be a
tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception
given the individual's clothing. He states that the individual carried
the child in his arms, with her head laying on the individual's left
shoulder, that being to the right of the deponent. He adds that he did
not hold the child in a comfortable position, suggesting [the carrying]
not being habitual.
Questioned, says that the individual did not speak nor did the child as she was in a deep sleep.
— States that it is not possible for him to recognise the individual in person or by photograph.
N. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 6: Martin Smith’s improving memory
But now let’s look at the further statement made by Martin Smith in January 2008
This further statement followed Martin Smith’s claim in September
2007 that he thought he recognised Gerry McCann as the man he had seen
at around 10.00pm on the evening of 3 May 2007. His unconvincing
explanation for that was that he recognised who it was ‘by the way Gerry
McCann was carrying his son Sean’ [on his shoulder].
Four months later, on or just before 30 January 2008, an officer of
the Irish Gardai, Liam Hogan, took a statement from Martin Smith. Here
are extracts from a summary of Martin Smith’s description of the man’s
clothing given in January:
The man “was wearing beige trousers and darkish top, maybe a jacket or blazer”.
But in May 2007, just three weeks after his claimed sighting,
Martin Smith clearly tells the Portuguese police that “He did not notice
the body clothing and cannot describe the colour or fashion of the
same”.
Similarly, Aiofe Smith told police in May 2007 that “She did not
see what he was wearing above his trousers, as the child covered him
almost completely at the top...”
Furthermore, Peter Smith’s evidence in May 2007 was that “He also
does not remember the clothing the individual wore, or his shoes”.
Neither Martin Smith nor his two children, in May 2007, could
remember a thing about what the man was wearing above his waist. So we
are entitled at least to ask, how could Martin Smith be so sure, over
eight months later, that the man he said he had seen was wearing ‘a
darkish top, maybe a jacket or blazer’?
Why was he unable to describe, three weeks after the event, what
the man had been wearing, yet very nearly nine months after the night
Madeleine was reported missing, he could apparently tell the Irish
police that he was ‘wearing a darkish top’?
O. Contradictions about the ‘Smithman sighting’ - No. 7: Could the witnesses see the child’s eyes? - or not?
Yet another contradiction emerges when we look at what the three
Smith family members say about the eyes of the child they saw they saw.
The following are all extracts from the statements of the three family
members taken by the Portuguese police on 26 May:
Aoife Smith says:
“...she didn’t see the child's face because she was lying vertically against the man’s left shoulder…”
Peter Smith says:
“The girl was asleep; her eyelids were closed”
[ NOTE: How could Peter Smith possibly see that the girl’s eyelids
were closed when Aoife says very clearly “I didn’t see the child’s face
because she was lying vertically against the man’s left shoulder…” ]
Martin Smith says:
“He says that the man didn’t speak, nor did the child as she was ‘in a deep sleep’.”
How exactly could Martin Smith say that she was asleep if Aoife,
his daughter, reports that the child’s face ‘was lying vertically
against the man’s left shoulder’? Moreover, based on the few seconds
that he saw this man in the dark, what makes him claim the child was in a
‘deep’ sleep? How can he possible know that?
P. The strange and striking similarity of the two sightings: Tannerman and Smithman
One of the strangest aspects of the ‘Smithman’ sighting is how
remarkably similar it was to the description given by Jane Tanner of the
man she said she had seen. Here is a list of them:
In both ‘sightings’, this was an unaccompanied male, carrying a child and having no buggy or push-chair.
In both ‘sightings’, the child was described as ‘a girl’,
‘barefoot’, ‘wearing light-coloured/pink pyjamas’, and ’looking about
four years old’.
In both ‘sightings’, the child was described as ‘being held on the man’s left side’ and ‘having no blanket or other covering
In both ‘sightings’, the man ‘did not look like a tourist’
(whatever that may mean), was ‘wearing a dark jacket’ and
‘light-coloured trousers’, was ‘about 1.75m to 1.8m tall (5’ 9” - 5’
10”)’, ‘aged 25-40’, and ‘of average build’.
In both ‘sightings’, the man was described as ‘walking
‘purposefully’/quite fast, the two sightings were within 600 yards of
each other, and in neither case could the man’s face be seen properly
(despite claims that the Smiths drew up the two e-fits).
We need to consider what can account for these remarkable similarities. Here are the main possibilities:
a) It was the same man wandering around Praia da Luz for 45 minutes
carrying a 4-year-old dressed only in pyjamas on a cold night
b) Two different unaccompanied men without a buggy or pushchair,
who looked nearly identical, were both carrying a child of about four
years of age around dressed only in pyjamas, or
c) The Smiths saw no-one, but invented their sighting by copying
the details of the ‘Tannerman’ sighting - which they may well already
have learnt by the time they made their statements on 26 May, possibly
(as we saw above) with the intention of giving extra credibility to the
sighting of Jane Tanner, but at the same time emphasising that the man
was not Robert Murat.
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Well, that concludes my little look at those mysterious two e-fits
and at the multiple puzzles and contradictions in the Smiths’ accounts
of events.
I suggest that looking again in detail at what the three Smith
family members say about the man they say they saw gives us no
confidence whatsoever that they could have drawn up those two-fits.
The appendix covering what was said on the BBC CrimeWatch Special
by DCI Andy Redwood and presenter Matthew Amroliwala about the ‘Smithman
sighting’ is below.
Written for the blog ‘What Happened to Madeleine McCann?’, October 2014
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APPENDIX
HOW THE MET POLICE AND THE BBC PRESENTED THE DISCOVERY THAT TANNERMAN WAS CRECHEMAN
Transcript of excerpt from CrimeWatch, 14 October 2013
AR: DCI Andy Redwood, Operation Grange, Metropolitan Police
MA: Matthew Amroliwala, BBC CrimeWatch presenter
Taken from: ‘Crimewatch UK - October 2013 Madeleine McCann Special’
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ8jmdWlB8Y
[extracts starts at 20 min 55 secs, finishes 23 min 40 secs]
AR: The careful and critical analysis of the timeline has been absolutely key.
Primarily, we’re focused on the area between 8.30 and 10.
We know that at 8.30, that was the time that Mr & Mrs McCann
went down to the Tapas area for their dinner and we know that at around
10pm, that was when Mrs McCann found that Madeleine was missing
MA: One of the most pivotal events on the timeline was Jane
Tanner’s sighting of a man carrying a child. He was walking in this spot
[picture shown of Matthew Amroliwala around the Escola Primaria and the
Rua 25 de Abril, Praia da Luz], just metres from where Madleeine had
been sleeping [picture of Matthew Amroliwala outside the M Canns’
apartment]. This man was widely thought to be Madeleine’s abductor.
But the team was taking nothing for granted.
AR: One of the things that we picked up very quickly was the fact
that there was a night crèche that was operating from the main Ocean
Club reception and 8 families had left 11 children in there, and one
particular family we spoke to gave us information that was really
interesting and exciting.
In fact, I would say it was, it was a ‘revelation moment’, when,
having discussed with them what they were doing on the night, they
themselves believed that they could be the ‘Tanner sighting’.
MA: The British father had collected his 2-year-old daughter from the crèche. He had been walking near the McCanns’ apartment.
This is the actual photograph taken by Metropolitan Police officers
of the man, dressed in the kind of clothes he wore on holiday [picture
shown of man dressed in a dark blue jacket and light grey trousers. His
face was blurred. His arms are shown projecting forward, as if carrying a
child on his arms]. This image was compared to the artist’s impression
[above -the one drawn by Melissa Little for the McCann Team].
AR: It is uncannily similar, and we know that the pyjamas their
child was wearing, that it is, again, uncannily striking, the
similarity.
MA: So what you’re saying is that the timeline everyone was working on for years in this case, was wrong?
AR: We’re almost certain now that this sighting is not the
abductor. But very importantly, what it says, is that from 9.15, we’re
able to allow the clock to continue to move forward [the sound of a
clock ticking is heard], and in doing so, things that have not been
quite as significant or received quite the same degree of attention are
now the centre of our focus.
MA: This was an enormous discovery for the team, with an innocent
explanation for the suspect who’d been at the centre of the case for
years.
Their attention quickly turned to another sighting, which could now be the key to the entire mystery.
It was here [picture shown of Matthew Amroliwala around the Escola
Primaria and the Rua 25 de Abril, Praia da Luz] at 10pm, that an Irish
family witnessed another man carrying child. They saw him come down the
hill from the direction of the Ocean Club, headed in that way [he
points] towards the beach. Could this have been Madeleine and her
abductor?
Tuesday, June 25, 2019
Textusa’s article, 30/10/15, on ‘Sagresman’/Wojchiech Krokowski: A good research article BUT - Some things he got right, others wrong
During
the summer of 2015, Tony Bennett wrote a series of articles exposing
how Nuno Lourenco must have comprehensively fabricated an alleged
kidnapping of his daughter by a Polish holidaymaker, Wojchiech
Krokowski, at Sagres, the windy southwestern tip of Portugal - and
indeed of the entire continent of Europe.
He showed how and why the fake kidnapping was constructed - and highlighted the massive effect it had on the very initial stages of the Portuguese Police's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Nuno Lourenco's account of this fake kidnapping - aided by a photo he had taken of Wojchiech Krokowski's hired car - diverted the PJ on the second full day of their investigations into organising a man-hunt for Krokowski by INTERPOL and the German and Polish police. Valuable police resources were used up with this wild goose chase over Europe.
After Tony's articles, Textusa added some of his own original research in an article which backed Tony's conclusions. Here is Tony's response to Textusa's article of 30 October 2015.
MMRG revised and updated Tony's article on 17 May 2019. We believe that the recognition that this alleged kidnapping never happened is a major clue as to what really happened to Madeleine McCann - MMRG.
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Textusa’s article, 30 Oct 2015, on ‘Sagresman’/Wojchiech Krokowski: A good article, excellent, original research, some great conclusions, but some wrong ones
The lies by Nuno Lourenco claiming his daughter was nearly kidnapped (twice in one day) by Wojchiech Krokowski are a very important part of events leading up to the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Textusa’s recent article on this gives us further valuable commentary on this subject, so I’m adding a few notes on her article here.
A. Introduction
It was back on 4 November last year - over a year ago now - that, after much research on the alleged ‘sightings’ of abductors by Nuno Lourenco, Jane Tanner and the Irish Smith family, I first published a detailed article on CMOMM explaining my thesis that Nuno Lourenco’s claims that Wojchiech Krokowski tried to kidnap his three-year-old daughter was a tissue of lies from start to finish. I said it was manifestly fabricated. I went on to suggest that the description of Wojchiech Krokowksi was used as a ‘template’ description for the descriptions by Jane Tanner of ‘Tannerman’ and by the Smith family of ‘Smithman’. I stand by all those conclusions.
The article gained a modest amount of interest. It has had 9,700 views and 61 replies to date. At the same time, I ran a poll, to test opinion on the forum. So far, 32 have voted; 24 (75%) thought that Nuno Lourenco was lying; just 8 (24%) thought Lourenco was telling the truth.
Five months later, in April this year, Richard D. Hall brought the claim that Nuno Lourenco's statement was a deliberate fabrication to a wider audience with his documentary film, ‘The Phantoms’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0-ePd3FCU ...
…in which he identified not only ‘Sagresman’, ‘Tannerman’ and ‘Smithman’ as phantom abductors, but also Operation Grange’s ‘Crecheman’, first revealed on BBC Crimewatch’s McCann Special on 14 October 2013. His film has now been seen by over 100,000 and has received similar critical acclaim to his first film: ‘The True Story of Madeleine McCann’.
On 25 October, just weeks after Richard Hall had exposed Nuno Lourenco's lies on his 'Phantoms' film, the Sunday People published a major article featuring Wojchiech Krokowski, titled: “Madeleine McCann detectives examine man’s pictures after Sunday People probe”. This finally brought the topic of Wojchiech Krokowski to a much wider audience, and the thread featuring this news story already has over 10,000 views on CMOMM.
On the same date, following publication of the People article, I ran a second poll on whether Lourenco was telling the truth. This time 35 have voted, with 28 (85% of those with an opinion one way or the other) saying he was a liar, and only five insisting he was telling the truth. Two were undecided.
And five days later, on 30 October, Textusa (who goes by the name 'Maria Santos' which I shall use in this article) finally addressed the issue of Krokowski, in a major article titled simply: ‘Sagresman’ which, despite its length, I suggest is well worth a read.
B. Points of agreement between Maria Santos and myself and Richard Hall
Maria’s article agrees with myself and Richard Hall on these fundamental points:
1 That Wojchiech Krokowski and Nuno Lourenco are very significant figures in this entire story of the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
2 That Nuno Lourenco’s story is a tissue of lies from start to finish, and
3 That Nuno Lourenco was working to a script.
I will at the end of this article address to points of difference with 'Maria'.
C. The absurdity of Nuno Lourenco’s fabricated story
One thing I tried to emphasise in my original article was how ludicrous Lourenco’s tale was. Maria’s analysis: http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/sagresman.html
…is fuller than mine was, with many new points added, in her typically minute and detailed analysis of every sentence in Lourenco’s statement. For anyone who still thinks that Lourenco was telling the truth about the two attempted kidnappings in one afternoon, I thoroughly recommend that you read 'Maria’s article - Sections 2 to 15.
Here are three paragraphs from Textusa's article which summarise what s/he says:
"We won’t go much into what Nuno Lourenço alleges to have happened on the beach between him and Wojciech Krokowski. We will just say that it is as ridiculous as what he later has to say about what is supposed to have happened in the Praça da República.
“To say he hears three or four clicks coming from a camera held by a strange middle aged man fully clothed on the beach pointing it to his children and do nothing is absurd.
“To say he continues to hear the clicking continuing as the man took “more pictures of 2 children of male gender” sons of a couple next to him and to say he limits his reaction to only looking at said stranger with camera in a “spiteful and aggressive” manner is absurd”.
D. 'Maria Santos’s visit to Sagres
Another very good reason for reading 'Maria’s article is that s/he has actually made a detailed visit to Sagres, to the scenes of the two alleged kidnappings, that is, Mareta Beach and the pastry shop in the village. She has taken many photographs. She has added a series of aerial photographs and diagrams, all of which bring these places to life and help us to visualise the utter impossibility of Lourenco’s story being true. It’s a truly excellent and original bit of research and I congratulate her/him on it.
E. Was Nuno Lourenco working to a script?
'Maria' seems to be in full agreement with myself and Richard Hall on this. For example, she says:
“Note, the potential abductor even makes his life much more difficult by parking in between 2 cars, which means that he has to manoeuvre to get out of there. Go figure. Either quite a stupid abductor, or a very poor script writer. We opt for the latter”.
And then this:
“The man has to start the engine and has to manoeuvre to get out of the parking space, the drive away in a very narrow “S”, the escape route we have shown above and which is the only way out of Praça da República. This would allow for many to see and register the licence plate of the car. A car that the man had rented in his real name so quickly traceable to him, as fact it would prove to be. All of the above done in front of the girl’s father and mother, all in the space (except the “S” bit) of a tennis court.
“Very, very poor scriptwriting we must say.
“We hope that the reader can now picture how we ( = 'Maria') laughed out loud when envisioning the above while sitting in the Marreiros esplanade and discussing this”.
So, we are all in agreement that Nuno Lourenco was working to a script. What Maria doesn’t offer, however, and which is vital to understanding matters relating to Lourenco and Krokowski, is any discussion of who might have written this script and when they did so. 'Maria' is committed, and always has been, to the view that something serious happened to Madeleine after 6pm on Thursday 3 May. She must therefore assume that any script that Nuno Lourenco was given must have been devised only after something happened to Madeleine.
My own opinion is that a script, involving a description of Krokowski, must have been given to both Nuno Lourenco and to Jane Tanner well before the evening of 3 May, and clearly must have involved others who devised these two very significant fabrications.
F. When was Nuno Lourenco’s car photographed in the square at Sagres?
A major question in all of this is how did Lourenco’s car come to be photographed in the square at Sagres? - and when was this photograph taken?
'Maria writes':
“But, one may ask, and one should, if all was as we say it was then how could the rented car have been photographed on the 29th in the Praça da República?
“In our opinion it wasn’t.
“In our opinion it was photographed on the 4th, explaining Nuno Lourenço’s insistence to show when the photograph was taken: “this time he was able to take a photo of the vehicle, which he supplied to the police and that he exhibits now, insisting [fazendo questão] in showing the time, 18H08 of 29/04/2007 as registered on the phone”.
“The first and evident fact is that Nuno Lourenço photographs a vehicle that has been rented by Wojciech Krokowski. And he describes Wojciech Krokowski to perfection. Which means he simply didn’t choose a vehicle randomly. It was that one he wanted to photograph.
“Second fact is that the photographed car is on Praça da República, meaning that Wojciech Krokowski had been indeed in Sagres and had been in that particular town square”.
'Maria' continues: “All that is left to be found is a volunteer to send PJ up this creek.
“Nuno Lourenço is chosen. He supposedly is not in Praia da Luz and he has a daughter the same age as Maddie. Wojciech Krokowski parks the car in Praça da República on the 4th and Nuno Lourenço photographs it. The cellphone data is manipulated so [that the] photo is registered as taken on the 29th.”
Now then, 'Maria' uses the phrase: ‘Nuno Lourenco was chosen’. I agree with that choice of phrase. But it still begs the question of who chose him, was it more than one person who chose him, and when did they do so?
'Maria' says that the photo was not taken on Sunday 29 April as claimed by Lourenco. She says that the date and time stamp was altered so as to give the date of 29 April to fit in with the bogus story of the alleged kidnapping at Sagres that day. I agree with all those conclusions, and would add that this reminds us, of course, to the discussion about the ‘Last Photo’ which now suggests that it could have been taken on Sunday 29 April and not Thursday 3 May as claimed. It appears to have been a genuine photo taken on a sunny Sunday and NOT on cloudy, cool, windy Thursday 3 May as the McCanns claim.
I part company with 'Maria' however where she says that the photo was 'definitely' taken on Friday 4 May and that Krokowski must have driven it there. That fits in with Textusa's well-known belief (in which s/he agrees with Goncalo Amaral and the PJ) that Madeleine died sometime after 5.30pm on Thursday,
Assuming that Lourenco was handed a script by a group of plotters (as Maria seems to agree), then (with Lrokowski's consent) anyone could have driven Krokowski’s car to Sagres, not necessarily Krokowski himself. And the photograph could easily have been taken on another day before 4 May. All we can say with certainty is that a photograph of that car must have been in Lourenco’s camera before he ’phoned the police early on 5 May.
And that before that, that someone had altered the date and time stamp to read ’29 April’, a matter which he (Lourenco) unnecessarily draws the police’s attention to.
And that Lourenco was primed to say that Krokowski had attempted to kidnap his daughter twice on that Sunday.
In fact it is certainly possible that Krokowksi himself never went to Sagres at all that week.
G. Was there a pre-arranged plan?
'Maria adds' weight to the pre-planning involved in Lourenco’s fabrication in these words:
“Maddie disappears on the night of the 3rd, Wojciech Krokowski has to leave Portugal early on the 5th and as he’s staying in Burgau and flying out in Faro, so the only day to link him to Nuno Lourenço is the 4th. Reason why Wojciech Krokowski is in Sagres that day.
“But to put PJ really on Wojciech Krokowski’s heels Nuno Lourenço must call the authorities only on the 5th. He has to allow Wojciech Krokowski time to fly out of the country before warning PJ.
“If he called PJ on the 4th, the police would quickly track the man down, talk to him and find out he had nothing to reveal and abandon there and then any and all investigation concerning the man. The false lead would not even survive a day.
“We have written before that immediately after Maddie’s disappearance there followed a critical period when it was absolutely required to keep PJ distracted with false leads under the penalty they could focus their investigation on where they shouldn’t, which would be on Praia da Luz and on the people holidaying there in the off-season.
“Once Wojciech Krokowski flew out of the country he would become a false lead that would continue to be followed.
“Long-distance investigations always involve a degree of bureaucracy and time wasted doing it and he would have left the country just before he was to be considered a person of interest to the case.
“There had to be a reason to call authorities and that could only be arranged on the 4th and authorities could only be called on the 5th after he left, as they were”.
I agree with the burden of this analysis, namely that it was necessary to create this additional ‘sighting’ of Krokowski by Lourenco. But when was all this planned?
However, I do not agree with 'Maria’s assumption that ‘Maddie disappears on the night of the 3rd’, nor do I accept that it is proven that Krokowski was actually in Sagres in 4 May. All we know is that his hired car was photographed in Sagres, near the car hire agency. But how it got there, and when, we don’t actually know.
Moreover, 'Maria' does not mention how Lourenco’s description of Krokowski is an almost perfect match with Jane Tanner’s of Tannerman, given to the PJ the day before, nor does s/he deal with how influential it was on the PJ’s thinking to get two near-identical descriptions of an abductor within less than 24 hours.
But what 'Maria’s article has done for me is to help firm up my mind on the vexed question of whether Krokowski was a willing or unwilling ‘patsy’, a question on which I was undecided. The new material and analysis that 'Maria' has offered tends to tip the balance IMO very much towards suggesting that, for whatever reason, Krokowski may have been aware of this fabricated story and co-operated with it.
H. The role of Robert Murat’s uncle, Ralph Eveleigh
Here, 'Maria’s Portuguese helps us to some extent with some translation issues. She writes:
“But there is one person pivotal and shows that there is a network behind this story: the bar owner.
“He is the one who provides the independent validation to Nuno Lourenço’s otherwise absurd tale. He is the one that makes the pieces of the story to come together so making it very clear it was all a collective effort.
“The bar owner, we repeat not employee, who nudged PJ into finding the FNAC Chiado CCTV image we believe was Ralph Eveleigh, Robert Murat’s uncle.
“If not him then it would be someone close to him as the Eveleighs owned that bar at one time. It’s possible the person who spoke to police may have been renting from Ralph Eveleigh and be referred to as proprietário (owner) because although a rentor he would effectively be the owner of the business using the rented space.
“We suggest that Nuno Lourenço and Wojciech Krokowski are part of - or connected to - that circle of people who were there enjoying off-season holidays with a very specific reason, one they did all for it not to be known”.
'Maria' here refers to a ‘network’. S/he places at the centre of this network Ralph Eveleigh, Murat’s uncle. I agree with 'Maria' that there may have been some kind of ‘network’ operating. I agree that Ralph Eveleigh is probably near the centre of any such this network, but I would place his nephew Robert Murat at the centre as well.
'Maria' refers to ‘a circle of people who were there enjoying off-season holidays with a very specific reason’. Sticking to those strict words, I am able to agree that what 'Maria' has written may be true. However, as I understand it, 'Maria' includes within that circle dozens, maybe a hundred or more, guests that week who had all come for the purpose of enjoying an ‘adult’. V.I.P. swinging holiday. I do not see the evidence to support that. But I am able to conceive of a rather smaller network, or ‘circle’, of people with a common interest. whose interests were threatened, or at least affected, by whatever happened to Madeleine.
I would like to have seen more reference in 'Maria’s article to Robert Murat himself, for example these issues:
* Hairs of his haplotype and Jane Tanner’s haplotype - the same haplotype - being found at the Sol e Mar apartments where Krokowski was staying
* The building and current maintenance of the Sol e Mar apartments being connected with Murat and his father, and
* Murat's rapid departure from England early on Tuesday 1 May.
I. Points of disagreement between 'Maria Santos', myself and Richard Hall
To summarise the important areas of disagreement between 'Maria', and myself and Richard Hall, these are:
* I think something serious may have happened to Madeleine before 3 May.
* I suggest there was a plot involving the Lourenco fabrication, the 'Tannerman' (Jane Tanner) fabrication and the probably false claim that the 'Last Photo' was taken on Thursday 3 May,
* I think it is possible (a) that Wojchiech Krokowski was never at Sagres that week or (b) that (for whatever reason) Krokowki co-operated with the plotters, and
*I think it possible that there was a planning meeting in Krokowski's flat at Sol e Mar. For example, a plot co-ordinator could have met there with Krokowski, Robert Murat, Nuno Lourenco and Jane Tanner.
Suppose the plot was hatched before Madeleine was reported missing? Suppose Robert Murat acted as co-ordinator? He would need Nuno Lourenco there, and Jane Tanner - and what better than to have Krokowski there in person so they could both get their descriptions right? Of course, as an alternative, Murat (or any other co-ordinator) could merely have shown them photographs of him.
I am just throwing out some realistic possibilities to explain the remarkable coincidence of Jane Tanner and Nuno Lourenco both coming up with near-identical descriptions of a (fake) abductor. I see strong evidence of advance planning.
J. Grounds for optimism, or not?
'Maria' ends her piece with these words: “We see no reason to be other than optimistic”.
The reason for her optimism is set out in these paragraphs, in which she again suggests that a network, or ‘circle’ of swingers is perpetuating the undoubted cover-up that exists in this case:
“The wider circle, the one that really matters, the one that is sustaining - not deciding - the whole edifice of this hoax has finally been told that it is time for them step on the stage and face the lights. And that it’s time for them to face the public’s reaction.
“The Met has been told to send the clear message that the time to play cops is over. No more binder paper carrying in the cobbled streets of the Algarve for the cameras. They “are now following a small number of focused lines of inquiry” and we get to know that the “enquiry has not reached a conclusion, there are still focused lines of investigation to be pursued.”
“And the lines are not only focused but that they “still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case.”
“Or in other words, it’s time for the Met to close shop and to start coming to conclusions.
And it’s not forgotten to remind all that “Operation Grange is working to support the Portuguese investigation and this work continues” and that “the Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry. They have extended every courtesy to Operation Grange and we maintain a close working relationship. I know they remain fully committed to investigating Madeleine's disappearance with support from the Metropolitan Police”.
I am unable to agree, as 'Maria' suggests, that the Met Police have been ‘told’, in a ‘clear message’, using the Wojcheich Krokowski story in the Sunday People, that ‘the time to play cops is over’ and that it is time for the ‘swinging conspiracy’ to be exposed.
I am unable to agree, based on all that I’ve read in the past 4½ years, that the Met Police and PJ are 'closely collaborating' in a genuine pursuit of the truth and of those responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.
I think it is far more probable that the Sunday People story is a prelude to an announcement that in some way Krokowski’s photographs of his week in Praia da Luz confirm, rather than disprove, the claim that Madeleine was abducted.
I still think it is far more likely that this continues to be an expensive charade, designed to influence public perception that an abduction really occurred.
For that reason I cannot share Maria’s optimism. [We believe Tony was justified. Four years later, nothing new has happened with the two investigations - MMRG].
K. Final word
Section 3 of 'Maria’s article has a section pointing up two errors in Richard Hall’s ‘Phantoms’. First, she points out that Lourenco is Portuguese, not Spanish as apparently stated in his film. Second, she notes that Richard used the wrong photograph of a grey car when referring to Lourenco’s hired car. The matter at issue was how Lourenco could have photographed Krokowski and his wife in an empty grey car (both the ‘wrong’ car and the ‘right’ one show an unoccupied car). Since 'Maria' fully agrees with Richard’s interpretation that Krokowski’s story is an obvious fabrication designed to put the PJ off the scent, it is somewhat churlish of her/him to spend a whole long section highlighting these two errors, while failing to acknowledge the successful impact Richard has made by putting out his film earlier in the year and bringing what we might now call ‘The Krokowski Deception’ out into the open for the 100,000-plus who have already been enlightened on the Krokowski deception on the internet.
But my final word is to advise members here to read 'Maria’s article, and with the helpful analysis and original material s/he has supplied, (a) to fix in your minds that the Sagres kidnapping story is one almighty hoax, and (b) to start thinking exactly who might have been involved in perpetrating that hoax.
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He showed how and why the fake kidnapping was constructed - and highlighted the massive effect it had on the very initial stages of the Portuguese Police's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Nuno Lourenco's account of this fake kidnapping - aided by a photo he had taken of Wojchiech Krokowski's hired car - diverted the PJ on the second full day of their investigations into organising a man-hunt for Krokowski by INTERPOL and the German and Polish police. Valuable police resources were used up with this wild goose chase over Europe.
After Tony's articles, Textusa added some of his own original research in an article which backed Tony's conclusions. Here is Tony's response to Textusa's article of 30 October 2015.
MMRG revised and updated Tony's article on 17 May 2019. We believe that the recognition that this alleged kidnapping never happened is a major clue as to what really happened to Madeleine McCann - MMRG.
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Textusa’s article, 30 Oct 2015, on ‘Sagresman’/Wojchiech Krokowski: A good article, excellent, original research, some great conclusions, but some wrong ones
The lies by Nuno Lourenco claiming his daughter was nearly kidnapped (twice in one day) by Wojchiech Krokowski are a very important part of events leading up to the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Textusa’s recent article on this gives us further valuable commentary on this subject, so I’m adding a few notes on her article here.
A. Introduction
It was back on 4 November last year - over a year ago now - that, after much research on the alleged ‘sightings’ of abductors by Nuno Lourenco, Jane Tanner and the Irish Smith family, I first published a detailed article on CMOMM explaining my thesis that Nuno Lourenco’s claims that Wojchiech Krokowski tried to kidnap his three-year-old daughter was a tissue of lies from start to finish. I said it was manifestly fabricated. I went on to suggest that the description of Wojchiech Krokowksi was used as a ‘template’ description for the descriptions by Jane Tanner of ‘Tannerman’ and by the Smith family of ‘Smithman’. I stand by all those conclusions.
The article gained a modest amount of interest. It has had 9,700 views and 61 replies to date. At the same time, I ran a poll, to test opinion on the forum. So far, 32 have voted; 24 (75%) thought that Nuno Lourenco was lying; just 8 (24%) thought Lourenco was telling the truth.
Five months later, in April this year, Richard D. Hall brought the claim that Nuno Lourenco's statement was a deliberate fabrication to a wider audience with his documentary film, ‘The Phantoms’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0-ePd3FCU ...
…in which he identified not only ‘Sagresman’, ‘Tannerman’ and ‘Smithman’ as phantom abductors, but also Operation Grange’s ‘Crecheman’, first revealed on BBC Crimewatch’s McCann Special on 14 October 2013. His film has now been seen by over 100,000 and has received similar critical acclaim to his first film: ‘The True Story of Madeleine McCann’.
On 25 October, just weeks after Richard Hall had exposed Nuno Lourenco's lies on his 'Phantoms' film, the Sunday People published a major article featuring Wojchiech Krokowski, titled: “Madeleine McCann detectives examine man’s pictures after Sunday People probe”. This finally brought the topic of Wojchiech Krokowski to a much wider audience, and the thread featuring this news story already has over 10,000 views on CMOMM.
On the same date, following publication of the People article, I ran a second poll on whether Lourenco was telling the truth. This time 35 have voted, with 28 (85% of those with an opinion one way or the other) saying he was a liar, and only five insisting he was telling the truth. Two were undecided.
And five days later, on 30 October, Textusa (who goes by the name 'Maria Santos' which I shall use in this article) finally addressed the issue of Krokowski, in a major article titled simply: ‘Sagresman’ which, despite its length, I suggest is well worth a read.
B. Points of agreement between Maria Santos and myself and Richard Hall
Maria’s article agrees with myself and Richard Hall on these fundamental points:
1 That Wojchiech Krokowski and Nuno Lourenco are very significant figures in this entire story of the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
2 That Nuno Lourenco’s story is a tissue of lies from start to finish, and
3 That Nuno Lourenco was working to a script.
I will at the end of this article address to points of difference with 'Maria'.
C. The absurdity of Nuno Lourenco’s fabricated story
One thing I tried to emphasise in my original article was how ludicrous Lourenco’s tale was. Maria’s analysis: http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/sagresman.html
…is fuller than mine was, with many new points added, in her typically minute and detailed analysis of every sentence in Lourenco’s statement. For anyone who still thinks that Lourenco was telling the truth about the two attempted kidnappings in one afternoon, I thoroughly recommend that you read 'Maria’s article - Sections 2 to 15.
Here are three paragraphs from Textusa's article which summarise what s/he says:
"We won’t go much into what Nuno Lourenço alleges to have happened on the beach between him and Wojciech Krokowski. We will just say that it is as ridiculous as what he later has to say about what is supposed to have happened in the Praça da República.
“To say he hears three or four clicks coming from a camera held by a strange middle aged man fully clothed on the beach pointing it to his children and do nothing is absurd.
“To say he continues to hear the clicking continuing as the man took “more pictures of 2 children of male gender” sons of a couple next to him and to say he limits his reaction to only looking at said stranger with camera in a “spiteful and aggressive” manner is absurd”.
D. 'Maria Santos’s visit to Sagres
Another very good reason for reading 'Maria’s article is that s/he has actually made a detailed visit to Sagres, to the scenes of the two alleged kidnappings, that is, Mareta Beach and the pastry shop in the village. She has taken many photographs. She has added a series of aerial photographs and diagrams, all of which bring these places to life and help us to visualise the utter impossibility of Lourenco’s story being true. It’s a truly excellent and original bit of research and I congratulate her/him on it.
E. Was Nuno Lourenco working to a script?
'Maria' seems to be in full agreement with myself and Richard Hall on this. For example, she says:
“Note, the potential abductor even makes his life much more difficult by parking in between 2 cars, which means that he has to manoeuvre to get out of there. Go figure. Either quite a stupid abductor, or a very poor script writer. We opt for the latter”.
And then this:
“The man has to start the engine and has to manoeuvre to get out of the parking space, the drive away in a very narrow “S”, the escape route we have shown above and which is the only way out of Praça da República. This would allow for many to see and register the licence plate of the car. A car that the man had rented in his real name so quickly traceable to him, as fact it would prove to be. All of the above done in front of the girl’s father and mother, all in the space (except the “S” bit) of a tennis court.
“Very, very poor scriptwriting we must say.
“We hope that the reader can now picture how we ( = 'Maria') laughed out loud when envisioning the above while sitting in the Marreiros esplanade and discussing this”.
So, we are all in agreement that Nuno Lourenco was working to a script. What Maria doesn’t offer, however, and which is vital to understanding matters relating to Lourenco and Krokowski, is any discussion of who might have written this script and when they did so. 'Maria' is committed, and always has been, to the view that something serious happened to Madeleine after 6pm on Thursday 3 May. She must therefore assume that any script that Nuno Lourenco was given must have been devised only after something happened to Madeleine.
My own opinion is that a script, involving a description of Krokowski, must have been given to both Nuno Lourenco and to Jane Tanner well before the evening of 3 May, and clearly must have involved others who devised these two very significant fabrications.
F. When was Nuno Lourenco’s car photographed in the square at Sagres?
A major question in all of this is how did Lourenco’s car come to be photographed in the square at Sagres? - and when was this photograph taken?
'Maria writes':
“But, one may ask, and one should, if all was as we say it was then how could the rented car have been photographed on the 29th in the Praça da República?
“In our opinion it wasn’t.
“In our opinion it was photographed on the 4th, explaining Nuno Lourenço’s insistence to show when the photograph was taken: “this time he was able to take a photo of the vehicle, which he supplied to the police and that he exhibits now, insisting [fazendo questão] in showing the time, 18H08 of 29/04/2007 as registered on the phone”.
“The first and evident fact is that Nuno Lourenço photographs a vehicle that has been rented by Wojciech Krokowski. And he describes Wojciech Krokowski to perfection. Which means he simply didn’t choose a vehicle randomly. It was that one he wanted to photograph.
“Second fact is that the photographed car is on Praça da República, meaning that Wojciech Krokowski had been indeed in Sagres and had been in that particular town square”.
'Maria' continues: “All that is left to be found is a volunteer to send PJ up this creek.
“Nuno Lourenço is chosen. He supposedly is not in Praia da Luz and he has a daughter the same age as Maddie. Wojciech Krokowski parks the car in Praça da República on the 4th and Nuno Lourenço photographs it. The cellphone data is manipulated so [that the] photo is registered as taken on the 29th.”
Now then, 'Maria' uses the phrase: ‘Nuno Lourenco was chosen’. I agree with that choice of phrase. But it still begs the question of who chose him, was it more than one person who chose him, and when did they do so?
'Maria' says that the photo was not taken on Sunday 29 April as claimed by Lourenco. She says that the date and time stamp was altered so as to give the date of 29 April to fit in with the bogus story of the alleged kidnapping at Sagres that day. I agree with all those conclusions, and would add that this reminds us, of course, to the discussion about the ‘Last Photo’ which now suggests that it could have been taken on Sunday 29 April and not Thursday 3 May as claimed. It appears to have been a genuine photo taken on a sunny Sunday and NOT on cloudy, cool, windy Thursday 3 May as the McCanns claim.
I part company with 'Maria' however where she says that the photo was 'definitely' taken on Friday 4 May and that Krokowski must have driven it there. That fits in with Textusa's well-known belief (in which s/he agrees with Goncalo Amaral and the PJ) that Madeleine died sometime after 5.30pm on Thursday,
Assuming that Lourenco was handed a script by a group of plotters (as Maria seems to agree), then (with Lrokowski's consent) anyone could have driven Krokowski’s car to Sagres, not necessarily Krokowski himself. And the photograph could easily have been taken on another day before 4 May. All we can say with certainty is that a photograph of that car must have been in Lourenco’s camera before he ’phoned the police early on 5 May.
And that before that, that someone had altered the date and time stamp to read ’29 April’, a matter which he (Lourenco) unnecessarily draws the police’s attention to.
And that Lourenco was primed to say that Krokowski had attempted to kidnap his daughter twice on that Sunday.
In fact it is certainly possible that Krokowksi himself never went to Sagres at all that week.
G. Was there a pre-arranged plan?
'Maria adds' weight to the pre-planning involved in Lourenco’s fabrication in these words:
“Maddie disappears on the night of the 3rd, Wojciech Krokowski has to leave Portugal early on the 5th and as he’s staying in Burgau and flying out in Faro, so the only day to link him to Nuno Lourenço is the 4th. Reason why Wojciech Krokowski is in Sagres that day.
“But to put PJ really on Wojciech Krokowski’s heels Nuno Lourenço must call the authorities only on the 5th. He has to allow Wojciech Krokowski time to fly out of the country before warning PJ.
“If he called PJ on the 4th, the police would quickly track the man down, talk to him and find out he had nothing to reveal and abandon there and then any and all investigation concerning the man. The false lead would not even survive a day.
“We have written before that immediately after Maddie’s disappearance there followed a critical period when it was absolutely required to keep PJ distracted with false leads under the penalty they could focus their investigation on where they shouldn’t, which would be on Praia da Luz and on the people holidaying there in the off-season.
“Once Wojciech Krokowski flew out of the country he would become a false lead that would continue to be followed.
“Long-distance investigations always involve a degree of bureaucracy and time wasted doing it and he would have left the country just before he was to be considered a person of interest to the case.
“There had to be a reason to call authorities and that could only be arranged on the 4th and authorities could only be called on the 5th after he left, as they were”.
I agree with the burden of this analysis, namely that it was necessary to create this additional ‘sighting’ of Krokowski by Lourenco. But when was all this planned?
However, I do not agree with 'Maria’s assumption that ‘Maddie disappears on the night of the 3rd’, nor do I accept that it is proven that Krokowski was actually in Sagres in 4 May. All we know is that his hired car was photographed in Sagres, near the car hire agency. But how it got there, and when, we don’t actually know.
Moreover, 'Maria' does not mention how Lourenco’s description of Krokowski is an almost perfect match with Jane Tanner’s of Tannerman, given to the PJ the day before, nor does s/he deal with how influential it was on the PJ’s thinking to get two near-identical descriptions of an abductor within less than 24 hours.
But what 'Maria’s article has done for me is to help firm up my mind on the vexed question of whether Krokowski was a willing or unwilling ‘patsy’, a question on which I was undecided. The new material and analysis that 'Maria' has offered tends to tip the balance IMO very much towards suggesting that, for whatever reason, Krokowski may have been aware of this fabricated story and co-operated with it.
H. The role of Robert Murat’s uncle, Ralph Eveleigh
Here, 'Maria’s Portuguese helps us to some extent with some translation issues. She writes:
“But there is one person pivotal and shows that there is a network behind this story: the bar owner.
“He is the one who provides the independent validation to Nuno Lourenço’s otherwise absurd tale. He is the one that makes the pieces of the story to come together so making it very clear it was all a collective effort.
“The bar owner, we repeat not employee, who nudged PJ into finding the FNAC Chiado CCTV image we believe was Ralph Eveleigh, Robert Murat’s uncle.
“If not him then it would be someone close to him as the Eveleighs owned that bar at one time. It’s possible the person who spoke to police may have been renting from Ralph Eveleigh and be referred to as proprietário (owner) because although a rentor he would effectively be the owner of the business using the rented space.
“We suggest that Nuno Lourenço and Wojciech Krokowski are part of - or connected to - that circle of people who were there enjoying off-season holidays with a very specific reason, one they did all for it not to be known”.
'Maria' here refers to a ‘network’. S/he places at the centre of this network Ralph Eveleigh, Murat’s uncle. I agree with 'Maria' that there may have been some kind of ‘network’ operating. I agree that Ralph Eveleigh is probably near the centre of any such this network, but I would place his nephew Robert Murat at the centre as well.
'Maria' refers to ‘a circle of people who were there enjoying off-season holidays with a very specific reason’. Sticking to those strict words, I am able to agree that what 'Maria' has written may be true. However, as I understand it, 'Maria' includes within that circle dozens, maybe a hundred or more, guests that week who had all come for the purpose of enjoying an ‘adult’. V.I.P. swinging holiday. I do not see the evidence to support that. But I am able to conceive of a rather smaller network, or ‘circle’, of people with a common interest. whose interests were threatened, or at least affected, by whatever happened to Madeleine.
I would like to have seen more reference in 'Maria’s article to Robert Murat himself, for example these issues:
* Hairs of his haplotype and Jane Tanner’s haplotype - the same haplotype - being found at the Sol e Mar apartments where Krokowski was staying
* The building and current maintenance of the Sol e Mar apartments being connected with Murat and his father, and
* Murat's rapid departure from England early on Tuesday 1 May.
I. Points of disagreement between 'Maria Santos', myself and Richard Hall
To summarise the important areas of disagreement between 'Maria', and myself and Richard Hall, these are:
* I think something serious may have happened to Madeleine before 3 May.
* I suggest there was a plot involving the Lourenco fabrication, the 'Tannerman' (Jane Tanner) fabrication and the probably false claim that the 'Last Photo' was taken on Thursday 3 May,
* I think it is possible (a) that Wojchiech Krokowski was never at Sagres that week or (b) that (for whatever reason) Krokowki co-operated with the plotters, and
*I think it possible that there was a planning meeting in Krokowski's flat at Sol e Mar. For example, a plot co-ordinator could have met there with Krokowski, Robert Murat, Nuno Lourenco and Jane Tanner.
Suppose the plot was hatched before Madeleine was reported missing? Suppose Robert Murat acted as co-ordinator? He would need Nuno Lourenco there, and Jane Tanner - and what better than to have Krokowski there in person so they could both get their descriptions right? Of course, as an alternative, Murat (or any other co-ordinator) could merely have shown them photographs of him.
I am just throwing out some realistic possibilities to explain the remarkable coincidence of Jane Tanner and Nuno Lourenco both coming up with near-identical descriptions of a (fake) abductor. I see strong evidence of advance planning.
J. Grounds for optimism, or not?
'Maria' ends her piece with these words: “We see no reason to be other than optimistic”.
The reason for her optimism is set out in these paragraphs, in which she again suggests that a network, or ‘circle’ of swingers is perpetuating the undoubted cover-up that exists in this case:
“The wider circle, the one that really matters, the one that is sustaining - not deciding - the whole edifice of this hoax has finally been told that it is time for them step on the stage and face the lights. And that it’s time for them to face the public’s reaction.
“The Met has been told to send the clear message that the time to play cops is over. No more binder paper carrying in the cobbled streets of the Algarve for the cameras. They “are now following a small number of focused lines of inquiry” and we get to know that the “enquiry has not reached a conclusion, there are still focused lines of investigation to be pursued.”
“And the lines are not only focused but that they “still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case.”
“Or in other words, it’s time for the Met to close shop and to start coming to conclusions.
And it’s not forgotten to remind all that “Operation Grange is working to support the Portuguese investigation and this work continues” and that “the Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry. They have extended every courtesy to Operation Grange and we maintain a close working relationship. I know they remain fully committed to investigating Madeleine's disappearance with support from the Metropolitan Police”.
I am unable to agree, as 'Maria' suggests, that the Met Police have been ‘told’, in a ‘clear message’, using the Wojcheich Krokowski story in the Sunday People, that ‘the time to play cops is over’ and that it is time for the ‘swinging conspiracy’ to be exposed.
I am unable to agree, based on all that I’ve read in the past 4½ years, that the Met Police and PJ are 'closely collaborating' in a genuine pursuit of the truth and of those responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.
I think it is far more probable that the Sunday People story is a prelude to an announcement that in some way Krokowski’s photographs of his week in Praia da Luz confirm, rather than disprove, the claim that Madeleine was abducted.
I still think it is far more likely that this continues to be an expensive charade, designed to influence public perception that an abduction really occurred.
For that reason I cannot share Maria’s optimism. [We believe Tony was justified. Four years later, nothing new has happened with the two investigations - MMRG].
K. Final word
Section 3 of 'Maria’s article has a section pointing up two errors in Richard Hall’s ‘Phantoms’. First, she points out that Lourenco is Portuguese, not Spanish as apparently stated in his film. Second, she notes that Richard used the wrong photograph of a grey car when referring to Lourenco’s hired car. The matter at issue was how Lourenco could have photographed Krokowski and his wife in an empty grey car (both the ‘wrong’ car and the ‘right’ one show an unoccupied car). Since 'Maria' fully agrees with Richard’s interpretation that Krokowski’s story is an obvious fabrication designed to put the PJ off the scent, it is somewhat churlish of her/him to spend a whole long section highlighting these two errors, while failing to acknowledge the successful impact Richard has made by putting out his film earlier in the year and bringing what we might now call ‘The Krokowski Deception’ out into the open for the 100,000-plus who have already been enlightened on the Krokowski deception on the internet.
But my final word is to advise members here to read 'Maria’s article, and with the helpful analysis and original material s/he has supplied, (a) to fix in your minds that the Sagres kidnapping story is one almighty hoax, and (b) to start thinking exactly who might have been involved in perpetrating that hoax.
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