Friday, April 1, 2011

60 Reasons why the McCanns should never have published THAT photo (the 'MAKE-UP '/ Lolita photo)

'MASSIVE CRITICISM OF VIDEO PHOTO OF MADELEINE WEARING MAKE-UP'.
Your comments

  1. Can the McCanns be thinking straight?
    Three years have passed since the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and her parents are determined that the search for her should not slip out of the world's headlines. To keep the story alive, they have just released a moody video, complete with a musical soundtrack, which includes a photograph of the three-year-old wearing make-up and gazing into the camera. It is that image which, predictably, has featured in the media,

    It seems a bizarre and unsettling development. Clearly, Kate and Gerry McCann have been living through a nightmare of unimaginable horror and perhaps, even after three years, they are not thinking straight. If so, someone should surely have pointed out to them that, in a case over which paedophilia casts an obvious shadow, it looks downright weird when a photograph which has the effect of sexualising the missing child becomes part of the campaign to find her.

    Obviously, the make-up game and the photograph were innocent at the time but, when the private picture is released into the public domain in these circumstances, something altogether nastier kicks in.

    What was the point of this exercise, apart from getting more news coverage? At a time when there is justified concern over Primark selling Little Miss Naughty padded bras for eight-year-olds and allegations that Playboy brands are being aimed at the primary school market, the circulation of this can only feed prurience of the very worst kind.

    Maybe it was a misjudgement, but it confirms a niggling sense that the McCanns' publicity–at-all-costs campaign has seriously lost its way.

    [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/com.... d-1961380.html]http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/com.... d-1961380.html[/url]

  1. People these days are increasingly protective of practically ANY image of children, parents are forbidden from taking photographs at school plays, photos in which children are visible in background shots at tourist attractions have been confiscated etc. Practically any image of a child is seen as being of interest to those with paedophile tendencies. I don't claim to understand why this is the case, but that's the way that things appear to be.

    In my view, which is of course completely out of step with the mainstream thinking on these issues, a child wearing make-up, or adult clothes certainly does not in itself constitute a pornographic or inappropriate image. However, if a fully clothed child standing in a street can be considered material of interest for a paedophile, then photographs of this nature should certainly fall within the same category. I am male, and like practically every other male that I have socialised with since from the age of about 6, to a greater or lesser we have all been exposed to pornography. I'm not great fan of pornography, nor have I been exposed to a great deal, but I could certainly give you a pretty good description of the stereotypical images that the producers of this product tend to use. It's a definite genre, with a definite style, camera angles, lighting, model poses etc.

    I know what picture of a child playing looks like, my parents have albums of pictures of my sister as a child playing with make-up, dressing up. I also understand when I'm seeing the deliberate sexualisation of a child. I also know which end of that spectrum that those images lie.

    I've previously critisised people for expressing these sorts of views, but when you see the three Madeleine pictures in that video in close succession you start asking: what's the probability that this is just some sort of accidental pose? I really don't like the answer.

    I'm not a photographer, nor a film maker, nor actively involved in the media, and so if I can pick up on these references, then Jon Corner [who produced the latest Madeleine video] most certainly can.
  2. I am getting angry now at the pro-McCanns folk saying that only someone with a diseased mind would see that the photo of Madeleine was inappropriate. It is NOT just a photo of a little girl playing dress-up. It is a photo taken by a professional photographer who has taken ''odd'' photos of Maddie before and clearly should never have been put in the public domain, as people like child expert Mark Williams-Thomas and Terence Blacker in the 'Independent' are now saying.


4. "Cannot see any reason how the 2 new images of Madeleine can be justified - given the scale of sexual exploitation of children & child erotica."

5. “On the eve of Madeleine's disappearance I agree with the release of a new photo but question the appropriateness of the photo chosen”

6. Am trying to find out now who gave advise to use the make up photo- so damaging- as I know what it will become

7. Have not yet seen the new Madeleine video but the photograph is so inappropriate & damaging on so many levels-ill advised again

8. I didn't realise this till I saw the pictures myself and thought , and then had a look and saw that others were also concerned. I cannot think why they have thought it suitable to use these images.

9. some months ago I made comment about Janes Tanner's comments (repeated sexual innuendo) in her interviews with the Portuguese police. I stated it was almost as though she had no concept that to constantly joke/repeat sexual innuendo whilst in a police interview on a possible child abduction was not normal...she had no sense that what she was saying would not sound 'good'. It was normal to her!!

Now the pictures of Madeleine in make up clearly put on for her at the age of three. The same can be suggested. That the parents found this behaviour 'normal' and hence saw no possible problems with releasing such images. It is normal to them!!

10. It doesn't look as if she's 'having fun' to me in that picture.

11. I think the look on her face is as, if not more, worrying than the make-up.
No way does she look like a child playing or having fun.

12. If Madeleine McCannis still alive the Daily Mail are putting her at risk with that disgusting pic. Good parents would demand it`s removal.

13. This is very sick

14. This case gets more unbelievable as time goes on. I cannot believe that the press did not crawl all over the latest pictures -describing the photos a 'grown up looking' Madeleine without further comment just beggars belief. Even my other half who maintains only a passing interest in the case commented on the unsavoury aspects of the photos

15. There is tasteless, and then there is the kind of tastelessness that is just plain unpalatable.
Their advisors are not only completely useless to Madeleine's memory, but they are most detrimental.
Team McCann have got a nerve to lecture anybody on censorship. They need to start with themselves.

16. Yet I noticed that as well, very well applied eyeshadow as well and lipstick on a toddler, not really appropriate given what has happened..

17. what a weird photo to release of Madeleine wearing eyeshadow. Why not release something more appropriate??

18. reminds me of JonBenét Ramsey beauty pageant photos, that kind of images could entice sexual predators. Disgusting photos...

19. Try 2 imagine McCann & Brit media reaction had Murat being found in possession of Lolita image? But it’s ok for Jon Corner 2 have them. Hmm

20. The McCann's think Madeleine has been snatched by a paedophile - and then their good friend Jon Corner chooses to use these inappropriate photos of her in this video?
You couldn't make it up!

21. Absolutely sickening!

22. That makes my skin crawls. Its just so Jon Bennett Ramsey!

23. Justice Hogg What do you say about the make-up Maddie? http://ow.ly/1FU3U After all, you are her legal guardian.

24. The latest photo mccanns have released makes for very uncomfortable viewing. Alongside the Gaspars statements, something is very wrong here.

25. Oh my goodness, what mother would allow a photograph of their young daughter to be distributed on the internet like this, it just makes me shiver. Can't beleive what they are doing. Surely social services should step in if this is what they are up to.

26. I don't know which campaign is more dangerous for her, If this one with a 'Maddie lolita' or the first picture you release to the press showing the eye defect

27. IMO media promoting Lolita Maddie photo are promoting child abuse. Katie Price got slaughtered for doing d same with her daughter

28. Why would they do this, yes!!! why would they do this?…that is the question that needs to be answered.

29. Saw this blue eye shadow picture on Sky news and had to surpress the urge to vomit. Is there no end to the tacky second class behaviour of her parents and the likes of Jon Corner. Is it humanly possible, that this is what has become of the memory of Madeleine Mccann, whether alive or possibly deceased. Is there no limit to the injustices done to this little girl.

30. It's not the fact that she's wearing make up that's the problem. Most tiny tots like to play at being grown up. My daughters did when they were kids. It's cute and funny to see them and their terribly comical attempts at applying mummy's make up.

31. It's the fact that these photo's of Maddie could never be described as cute or funny or comical. They appear to be simply photos of an expertly made up child who has been placed into provocative model style posing. There is no cuteness about them, no fun. No natural smiling or laughing.

32. They are disturbing....

33. Clearly she didn't put it on herself (my 9 and 12 year old daughters are not even as adept as this at putting on make up. Or my wife for that matter).

34. Which 3-year old knows how to apply perfect make-up like that?

35. Now, that would be considered a good one if done by 7 or 8 year old, but for 3 year old, no way they can do even that.

36. At least most three year olds I know doddle lipstick on their cheeks in addition to lips because they cannot aim properly, also they dont understand the signficant/purpose of each make up. The 3 year olds I know usually mess with powder, perfume, or lipstick rarely shadows because they dont know how to aim at the eye lids.

37. Something doesnt add up. That make up is not done by herself. an adult had done it for her. No child gets anything straight on their face at that age. I find it creepy that some adults had deemed it necessary to apply make up for her just for the home video...why cant she be filmed in her natural look?

38. So they are saying a 3 year old put that eye shadow and make up on, how is this video helping her? there is something not right with this video, i'm convinced!

39. Still do not understand the purpose of the photo with the blue eyeshadow.
Anybody noticed that on this said photo, the right side of the background seems to show the
same wall than the wall in the new released video. Right in the beginning the video shows Praia de Luz and one can see wall very similar to the photo. So was the photo taken while on holiday?
Is the photo meant to remember somebody who was there, when the photo was taken?

40. I'm looking at her hair. The fringe is kind of grown out and comes to beneath her eyes, just like in "the last photo". If you look at pictures of her a few weeks before, in Donegal, her fringe isn't that long. If it was taken before the holiday, it must have been JUST before IMO.

41. It is a year since Jacqui Smith invited the TV psychologist Dr Linda Papadopoulos to head a 'fact-finding' review. Her report describes a world where young girls who can barely walk are first cajoled into wearing high heels and T-shirts with Playboy motifs, before progressing into a grim future dominated by an internet-based youth culture that pressurises them into dress and behaviour which defines them overwhelmingly as sexual objects.

42. These people are beyond contempt. How do staff at CEOP look their own children in the eye, or sleep at night ? I am disgusted to be British

43. Does Jim Gamble CEOPapprove of Lolita picture of Madeleine McCann? Will he b updating CEOPwebsite with the picture?

44. If CEOP endorse this http://tiny.cc/evy3a PR for a supposed missing child then their role in child protection has to be questioned!

45. Where is theC EOPpanic button to report this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw&feature=related Wearing makeup! FGS!

46. could it be the internet paedo hunter CEOPUK Jim Gamble advising the McCanns?

47. For what its worth, I'm not convinced this photo is of Madeleine - someone said recently on another forum that anything put out by TM should be never be taken at face value, after 3 years I think many of us are all too familiar with the smoke and mirrors games they play. I don't know what they hope to achieve by releasing this photo, perhaps they are so confident that they will not be challenged about anything that they are starting to push the boundaries or, are could it be that they are seriously starting to lose the plot? What I do know is that it is imperative that Jim Gamble, as head of CEOP, speaks out and makes it clear that his organisation does not endorse the McCanns' decision to use this unsettling photo in their campaign - should he stay silent on this matter it is confirmation, imo, that his allegiance to the McCanns is as strong as ever.

48. Jim Gamble and latest McCann pic – you`ve got to see the funny side.

49. Jon Corner may b able 2 answer ur question on who advised McCanns to release THAT picture. He's friends with Esther McVey

50. It is all becoming surreal, and near unbearable.

51. Nothing in this case has upset me quite as much as this. I am blessed with two daughters who are the light of my life; there is no way I could bring myself to treat them in this manner. Is there any other mother out there who would invite the world to peruse such a suggestive picture of her beloved child, while claiming that that child has been abducted, presumably by a paedophile?

52. These photos of a made-up, posed Madeleine turn my stomach. Poor little mite.

53. The picture is an obvious and not very good photo-shop type job.
Why would they do this?

54. People have been speculating that the latest Maddie picture has been photo-shopped.
They've been focusing mostly on the eye area.
Now, I haven't a clue about these things - but whilst magnifying the picture to get a better look - noticed that one side of her neck looks a bit strange.

55. Does this normally happen when you magnify a pic?

56. Look closely at the photo of made-up Madeleine with a picture editing program.
Magnify it to 400%
a- The girl on the photo has no eyelashes. Colour has been digitally added on top, hiding them. Compare with another pic of Madeleine, she has noticeable eyelashes, which have now disappeared.
b- No trace of coloboma
c- Two obvious brush tool traces above the eye on the right of the pic.
d- pixels of the face (very smooth) do not match pixels outside the face.
e- compare eyebrows on the pic with eyebrows on another photo of Madeleine. They don't match.
There are other mismatches.

57. When you think about it the lovely Kate probably pays a small fortune for her cosmetics so it is very unlikely that a three year old would be allowed to play with them, so what we have left is old make up. Does anyone remember a few years back when us girls were warned to discard our old make after a certain time because it becomes out of date and may cause a reaction – yes Kate cosmetics now come with a sell by date. So it is unlikely that the child of two doctors would be playing around with old make up, but then again this is the same couple who claim to carry the soiled nappies of two year olds in the same car boot as their badly packed up fresh meat. Is all of this within the boundaries of responsible parenting? So Kate, did the press lie?, is this a false photo? or was that little girl allowed to play with old make-up that should have been discarded? Even then, If Maddie applied that herself she must be a genius. Pull the other one.

58. What little girl aged 3 buys make up? and mothers do have the authority to say whether they can wear it or not.

59. Jesus, we've gone through decades of fighting for equality only to turn little girls into young woman before they reach puberty. What went wrong?

60. And whoever decided to put out that photo certainly was thinking straight.
In fact if I may say so the person is rather stupid to think that could make a change to the search.
But of course I forgot it was never about the search, it was about marketing Maddie.

61. How did Jon Corner happen to be around on that day she was messing around with make up that he was ever ready to make the home video?

62. Most importantly, why the need to release such a video? Does it enhance the search? I shouldnt think so. In fact it makes it worst. Who in their right mind searching for their child would release that kind of pic? It's sending the wrong message because people looking out for a child will naturally expect to be looking for a nutural looking 6 year old and not a mini adult.

63. Wouldn't the most effective video appeal be, after all this time, one where the McCanns directed a message to Madeleine and her abductor/s. Surely a heartfelt direct appeal/plea would work far better.

64. Seriously cannot get my head around this new video, it does nothing except promote images of Madeleine that would appeal to plenty of paedophiles ...beggars belief, it really does

ENDS

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Sunday, July 11, 2010

Amy Tierney and those mysterious 6" x 4" photos - Extracts from the research thread on 3As

Part of a thread from the former 3As site, reproduced here without editing:


Amy Ellen Tierney (statement translated by Robert Murat)Creche Worker
Time/Date: 15H45 2007/05/06



5 June


England
• Questioned about Madeleine, Amy notes that Madeleine was timid but very intelligent for her age and would play with the older children;
• Also knows Madeleine’s parents—although it is the father who would normally pick her up from the club;
• Did not notice anything out of the ordinary with the parents;
• Affirmed that the McCanns never took advantage of the complementary children services which ran from 19H30 to 23H30;
• Affirms that on the night of the disappearance, she went to the room to check and see if the child was hidden and noticed that the window was open and the blinds lifted;



ET: Yup, he closed the shutters according to his statement of 10 May 2007 and then tried to see if they could be opened from outside. So, NOT in his 7 September statement but raises the question of whether Amy was at the apartment before Gerry supposedly closed the shutters, no?

• The first idea that came to her was whether Madeleine would leave on her own accord. She asked the parents the whereabouts of Madeleine’s shoes and they responded that they were in their proper place. These facts led her to later believe that Madeleine had been taken by someone;
• Even though there was a bed right under the window, and that the child could have climbed on the bed to get out through the window, the witness does not think it would be possible for her to lift the blinds. Nor does she believe it would not have been possible for a child of her age to climb out the window without falling as the window was very high off the ground;
• Responding to questioning, responds that the front door was locked but was not aware whether the patio door was locked; as
when she got there, the McCanns and a friend (whose name she does not remember) were standing at the open doorway;• Witness also affirms that the child’s father went to the reception to call Police, shortly after hearing about the disappearance, and that 20 minutes had passed;
then she appears for more questioning.

Name: Amy Tierney


Has made previous statements in May last year.

Given that she does not speak Portuguese, Silvia Batista acted as interpreter.

When questioned and shown the photographs referred to in the previous statements, depicting the English girl, on
“Kodak Xtra Life “ paper, 10 x 15, she said they were printed on her printer, also of Kodak brand.
When on the night of 3rd May, at about 24.00, she was at her desk at the Tapas bar, inside the resort, when at a certain time, one of the friends of the McCann couple, Russell, asked for a USB memory stick reader, in order to print photographs of Madeleine. Immediately the deponent replied that she did not have an USB reader, but that
she had a printer with this hardware, which could read from memory sticks.

She went to her room and returned to the Tapas with the printer where she printed out 20 to 30 photographs of the girl, using her own paper, in 10x15 format mentioned previously. The memory stick containing the photos belonged to the McCann couple, and
came from their camera.
She thinks that all of this took place at about 24.00 on 3rd May 2007. She presumes that she
handed all of the photos to Russell, who distributed some to those present, the rest would be for the police authorities.
As regards her printer, she says that it is no longer in her possession as it is now with her boyfriend in France,
she says, after consultation, and in accordance with her previous statements, that is was a “Kodak”, model Easy Share G60, of thermal ink transfer, with continuous tonality.
In annex, is documentation about the printer, describing its technical characteristics, which she recognises as being identical to her printer.

GNR Officer
Processos
Volume nº 15
Pages 63-64

Upon leaving the apartment he saw various photographs of the little girl printed on normal A4 paper which had been printed at the reception as well as other photos printed on 10 x 15 photographic poster paper which could not have printed at the reception. This seemed unusual to him and he later confirmed that they could not have been printed at the reception.
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Translated summarised snippet from Statement by Amy Tierney saying that she was approached at her desk at the Tapas restaurant at about 24.00 by Russell O' Brien who asked if she could help print out photos of Madeleine. She went to fetch another printer and printed out about 20 – 30 photos which she handed to Russell. The photos came from the McCanns camera.

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On the 25of the month of June of the year 2007, the Territorial Post Commander of the Lagos GNR, delivers to your Excellency Mr. Goncalo Amaral, Chief Inspector of the Portimao Policia Judiciaria, four photographs, two by two in different positions of the minor Madeleine Beth McCann, which were together with the copy of the missing notice NUIPC 201/07.OGALGS and which were given to us by family on the day of the disappearance.--------------------------------
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I've grabbed the statement where the PJ have confirmation of photo composition [inks type paper etc] This is truly astonishing what isn't revealed by the investigators..as follows..
On this date we travelled to the location referenced below with the intent of collecting elements relative to the poster style photographs (10 x 15) and which were alluded to in the previous information, namely, the place of its printing, for comparison with the paper.

The establishment FUJI, in Luztur, Praia da Luz, Lagos, proprietor MANUEL SILVA, alleges that he does not use paper identical to the printed posters mentioned above.

The establishment MLT SILVA, situated on Rua Portas de Portugal, no. 23, Lagos—
Proprietor MANUEL SILVA and the diligence had identical results.

The establishment JOAO JULIO, on Rua Antonio Barbosa Viana, no. 20, Lagos –functionary ENA COSTA, where also they do not use the same type of paper.

The establishment MONTE CLARO, situated on Rua dos Quintais, no. 9, Lagos, proprietor JOAO CARRONDO, and the diligence was identical to the others.


Have we got a photo of this LIAR!!!


Have a guess HOW MUCH SHE GOT FOR THIS LATE ADDITION?...funny thing the memory some seem to grow more recollection over time whereas the vast majority of us usual have a vague recount of past events..She manages to add a whole new dimension to 'suspended amnesia' but a knock at the door and an open check book soon got her neuron juices working...the cortex was working on LALALA overtime..



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Feb 18, 2009 12:07 am, edited 1 time in total.


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having owned a kodak easyshare printer a few years ago I find it really hard to see how it could have printed out 20 to 30 a4 photos on photo paper without changing ink cartridges was this mentioned?.Also how long would have taken to print out said photos?Its not something one would run off in 10 minutes is it?

By their account, Kate discovered Madeleine missing, window open, shutters up, searched 5A for Madeleine and went back to Tapas restaurant where she raised the alarm. The rest of the group with the exception of Diane Webster but including Gerry ran/walked to 5A with Kate. Gerry says he closed the window and shutter because it was cold and the twins were in the room. Where does Amy enter the scene: did Kate inform Amy and others of Madeleine's disappearance and give them access to 5A before she went to Tapas to sound the alarm? That's the only way Amy could have been inside 5A and noticed the window and shutter open...as there is no mention by any of the Tapas 9 of Amy being part of the group that returned to 5A with Kate. (I hope I've put my point across clearly.)

Although why (I think?) they printed off pics that looked to be about two years old and not the 'last photo' which didn't appear for another three weeks is anybodies guess. No doubting that was a blo*dy strange decision.

The only fingerprints that were found on it belong to Kate Healy. The sense and the position of the fingers that were imprinted on the window indicate a movement of opening it to the left”.

I dont think she just came out with all the technical spec off the top of her head. The statement says:
"she says, after consultation, and in accordance with her previous statements, that is was a “Kodak”, model Easy Share G60, of thermal ink transfer, with continuous tonality. " and "In annex, is documentation about the printer, describing its technical characteristics, which she recognises as being identical to her printer." Basically if you look at the relevant pages on the dvd you can see that the PJ printed off a tech sheet from the internet listing all the specifications of the printer - it is this she is referring to and agreeing is her printer. She signed the sheet IIRC.

Also, the Easyshare is relatively small and compact...It is designed for portability. Its not like she was carrying a regular domestic printer around with her in her suitcase.



JOHN ELLIOT HILL [Manager]
''This phone call was made to the deponent’s mobile phone at about 22.28 on 03-05-2007.The deponent thinks that the GNR arrived at the scene at about 22.45, however in a conversation several weeks later, he heard someone say, he doesn’t remember whom, that they had arrived at about 23.30, but as he was so busy he declared that he had no notion of the passage of time.''

''The deponent tried to print various photos that were distributed in different sites'' [err?]

amy tierney[office clerk/child carer]
''When on the night of 3rd May, at about 24.00, she was at her desk at the Tapas bar, inside the resort, when at a certain time, one of the friends of the McCann couple, Russell, asked for a USB memory stick reader, in order to print photographs of Madeleine. Immediately the deponent replied that she did not have an USB reader, but that she had a printer with this hardware, which could read from memory sticks.''[err?]


it quite clearly proves that someone else was copying photos that night..[no source] have you an answer to which one was attending to the photocopier..manager or Amy? You are certainly out of sorts with this case..methinks..oh well watch and learn SS..

What on earth does that prove? Amy was quite specific about printing 10 by 15 coloured photos on her kodak printer.
She didn't seem so specific in her initial interview in May 07? Can you find her specific detail to the photocopying situation..
There were aso some photocopied pages that were distributed, and maybe that is what the manager was referring to.
Where was this cited? You can't remember or you don't know do you? Weasel words yet again..this thread is hurting..let;s dig a little deeper then..Thanks for the heads up..

Your standard of sleuthing is slipping.
Ive never complained about your wig slipping now have I?
And I think I am perfectly in step with the case (at least as far as the official investigation is concerned).And what official investigation are you in step with? But out of step with the bulk of posters on this forum,Well you choose to come here what do expect?
who persist in drawing ever wilder conclusions, producing theories based on certain people lying,Not theories but drawing on actual evidence that substantiates the person/s were indeed Lieing...Do you not find lieing a problem in your life? and ignoring the wholesale slaughter of the herd of scared cows.hindu now..yeah whatever..just go and find me the credible source i asked for..do something useful today...& peace



I'm still hoping for the innocent explanation as to why the Tapas were printing photos within hours of the child going missing and in the pitch dark, strange priorities.

Like I said, why the assumption that she wouldn't be found before light ?



What is unusual is the timing of the printing.
People are out at night searching for a missing 3 year old I doubt whether they really need a picture to check if a 3 year old wandering around PdL in the night is Madeleine.

The matter suggests that people were already planning for the next day,that they knew she wouldn't be found that night

As far as the witnesslying Idon't see any reason for her to lie as the statement does not helpthe McCanns case



The face of a girl roughly a year younger than Madeleine was when she disappeared. Although recent photos were available.

The poor GNR was running around with the picture that was attached to the Maddie file as seen on Amaral's book.



And of course, WHY close the shutters? Because the twins might get a chill! WTF - when Kate arrived in that room, she "immediately knew" that Madeleine had been abducted and I would assume have told Gerry of her suspicions. So why tamper with what would have been the most important source of evidence, why not just move the twins to a less draughty room? If I thought my child had been abducted and there was an open window/shutter scenario, I would have moved my remaining children immediately and made sure no one else disturbed the scene


The photo was supposed to have come straight from McCanns' digital camera - how strange is that?


The police in Portugal were at one stage deeply suspicious about the posters and how come they were produced so early after the child's disappearance. They didn't match the Tapas reception printer, IIRC.


You're right of course, but the essence is that the witness stated that the device was from the McCanns' digital camera and yet the photo printed was already a year out of date. Personally I cannot conceive of having year-old photos on my camera's memory card, I tend to shoot the card full just on a day out somewhere. Perhaps it was a USB but from Gerry's laptop rather than being from the camera and a translation terminology thing?


But what if the device actually was a USB stick with an old picture, rather than the card from a camera ? That would definitely suggest deception.


And what if the compliant Amy made the whole story up, to cover for the fact that there was no way the posters could have been printed on the Ocean Club printer?

And the posters had indeed been brought from England?


"ROB said they used one for the purpose of distributing posters, that night was taken weeks earlier when she had longer hair."

Statement.
Okay. What kind of photo was it”?
Reply “The, it was a, it was a photo of err, it was the one that was being circulated in the, in the days immediately afterwards, I’ve seen so many photographs of her, of Madeleine since, I think it was a photograph that had been taken of her and a relatively number of weeks before and I think with a slightly different, slightly longer hair, erm but it was, it was a fa, it was a fa, it was a relatively full on sort of face on photograph, err and it was printed on a standard size erm four by six err inch, as you know, using the equipment that the people had and we ran off a number of copies of this, erm and several I think were given to the, the GNR”.

And someone holding a 6X4 print on A4 paper is shown on the next page. Worth a read perhaps.



But, the Tapas males spent their time sorting out a photo....not actually searching PDL.

But then again....they already KNEW immediately that she had been 'abducted'....and told everyone that right from the very first moment!



OB isn't the self assured A&E operative he makes out..If OB was fumbling around with Amy & John in the office loading a memory card or memory stick from the Mcs camera..Why produce the totally bizarre image taken before the hols..Logic G states to give the masses/public a better understanding of the profile of the missing child they are searching for ..YOU PRODUCE THE LATEST IMAGE..which is?

Amy why neary 6mths delay before the before the limp second interview? Why was the John Hall interview delayed over month since the 3/5



2..Probably printed on the Thursday..I think the two statements by JH & AT are statements of half-truths and omission..What other reason for the late first statement made by JH..and the printer scenario omitted from the first statement of AT..As I said people in powerful positions are there cos of their power..



Quite, the idea that there would be lots of, or even more than one, little 3 year old hiding in the shrubs and in the dark recesses of PDL, is farcical and even if there were (all pretty, blonde and pink) surely they would want to recover them all!.

Imagining them running around with picture ( a year old !?) in one hand and torch in the other, is like a scene from Carry on Up the Algarve and every bit as slapstick.

Except, this isn't meant to be funny.



First thought that enters your noodle: Why did the PJ not just apprehend the printer that AT copied the Mcs photos from?? This as got to be the most IMPORTANT question of this case thusfar.


As for the 'sighting' of A4-sized images being available for distribution so early on that night/morning: if they are correct then either:
- both ROB and AmyT statements omitted that they copied the image to a memory stick, or scanned one of the smaller images, and ran off the larger prints in the OC office. I cannot accept that both would fail to admit such an obvious action; or
- there were pre-printed images of that dimension already to hand. If this is true then the involvement of AmyT may have been as a 'cover' - one that has failed because her printer (according to my reading of the specifications) did not use A4-sized paper.

The PJ seemed more interested in the provenance of the 10x15 pictures than in any A4-sized images when it would appear.that they should have questioned closely the provenance of ANY and ALL images of the child - and done so very soon into the inquiry.



.. running off to her apartment to dig out a specific copier machine, why doesn't he give this detail?..This leads me to see red flags in this small but vitally important sequence of events..I'm rather perplexed, and vindicated for having this opinion..could be supported by the unusual time lag from 25-6 to nearly 6mths later of AT submitting this rather limp statement of the whereabouts of the printer and all the specs which unsurprisingly correlate very nicely to the suspicious photo paper..why am I not surprised..The time it took is well beyond the normal this was an urgent request in May/June which is shown by the diligence.. regarding ascertaining the provenience of the paper [I reiterate why wasn;t this paper and it's supplier AT ascertained earlier] ..We can surmise a myriad of reasonable conclusions drawing parallels with the apr08 'rogues' statements,the allowed time span between gathering evidence is sadly diminished as time protracts,highlighting a lack of urgency by the PJ to uncover this suspicion they held before redirection/suspension became the 'modus operandi'...Maybe they had only days in reality to pursue the normal methodical processes they were trained to do..


If we go along with this story it leads us to question the reason OB choose photos that were clearly prior to the holiday, whilst knowing there were supposedly recent photos taken in PDL of her? Why not these images..and why when we have established these came from the same camera which took the 'last photo' the very suspicious time lag in eventually printing the alleged 'last photo'? Obvious to my untrained eye these suspicious and contentious anomalies just from the perspective of this particular situation
The PJ seemed more interested in the provenance of the 10x15 pictures than in any A4-sized images when it would appear.that they should have questioned closely the provenance of ANY and ALL images of the child - and done so very soon into the inquiry.
Why didn't they as you suggest thoroughly investigate this? It all smacks of a cover-up and forces above directing proceedings on the ground..how frustrating this must have felt for those PJ investigators who were genuinely go after the perpetrators..the job we all except they are payed and trained to do...It really is a corrupt world we inhabit do you agree



If we go along with this story it leads us to question the reason OB choose photos that were clearly prior to the holiday, whilst knowing there were supposedly recent photos taken in PDL of her? Why not these images..and why when we have established these came from the same camera which took the 'last photo' the very suspicious time lag in eventually printing the alleged 'last photo'? Obvious to my untrained eye these suspicious and contentious anomalies just from the perspective of this particular situation
Yes - me too, especially if that was the same card that supposedly held the 'last' photo.



If that is an accurate translation of what she said then it would seem that the images file(s) from the camera had already been downloaded to a USB 'stick', and it was not the camera flash card that was used.


Statement by
JERONIMO RODRIGUES SALCEDAS ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

George Robin Crossland~ NO PHOTOGRAPH

Shinead Maria Vine ~ NO PHOTOGRAPH

Susan Bernadette Owen ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Maria De Fatima de Sousa Fernandes ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Vitor Manuel dos Santos~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Silvia Maria Correia Ramos Batista ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Kirsty Louise Maryan~NO PHOTOGRAPH [AMYT IS APPARANTLY SEARCHING ALONGSIDE HER 22;30ISH]

Lyndsay Jayne Johnson ~NO PHOTOGRAPH [WAS TOLD ABOUT THE INCIDIENT BY AMYT]22;20

Nelson Luis Da Silva Rodríguez~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Tiago Rochas Barreiros ~ NO PHOTOGRAPH

DANIEL JAMES STUK ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Nuno Goncalo Marques Vincente Dos Ramos Bernardo ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

Sarah Elizabeth Williamson ~NO PHOTOGRAPH [TOLD BY AMYT]22;30

Leanne Danielle Wagstaff~NO PHOTOGRAPH [TLD BY AMYT]22;30

Joaquim José Moreira Baptista ~NO PHOTOGRAPH

RICARDO ALEXANDRE DA LUZ OLIVEIRA~NO PHOTOGRAPH

CATRIONA SISILE BAKER~ NO PHOTOGRAPH



It does seem odd that Amy didn't mention the photos in the first place, and since she mentioned a 'USB stick' it does suggest to me at least that someone downloaded the photos from the camera onto a laptop or PC earlier, and then onto a USB stick. But wouldn't the PC/laptop computer have to have the specific camera software loaded for this?

I guess the 6x4 prints printed on A4 were actually photocopies taken in later days.


Just to clarify. The Canon A620 cannot download images directly to a USB stick.

It has a cable which plugs into the camera the other end is a USB connector. You cannot plug this USB connecter into a memory stick as they are the same gender.

You have to download to a PC first then copy on to a USB stick.

Of course pictbridge enabled printers allow you to print directly from the camera via the cameras memory card or USB port.

Sans wrote:
Some cameras have either a USB port and images can be saved directly to a USB drive...

I don't think I have ever seen a camera that could transfer data directly to a USB memory stick. Can you name the make and model sans?



Sorry for keep going on about this particular device..What is not clear in my understanding is the use of a 'stick'..Aren't all digital cameras supplied with memory cards? Why then was AT & Russ specific when saying 'stick'...and why not the memory card from the camera...


We return to the USB stick..And how the imges were downloaded on to it prior to the incident? Still not reassured we have the right make/model of camera..please could someone point my in the right direction regards this FACT!


00.18.35
1578
“Did you have any photo of Madeleine in your possession”?
Reply
“Erm we got a photo of Madeleine later on but this is two hours later, erm”.
1578
“So who gave it to you”?
Reply
“Okay well certain, I’m not quite sure what the, the initial, the question made it sound like whoever had one in our possession anyway, I didn’t, erm we got a, we erm, after a portion of my searches, we got hold of erm Kate’s camera, err looked through the digital cam to try and find a picture of Madeleine reasonably recently, reasonably face on and, and with her being the main, the main character on the photograph, erm clearly that that was going through, there were quite a few pictures that were not ideal, so we, we went through those, err and then printed that off, erm all of this taking a reasonable amount of time to try and get hold of equipment and have offices opened and etc., etc”.
1578
“Okay. What kind of photo was it”?
Reply
“The, it was a, it was a photo of err, it was the one that was being circulated in the, in the days immediately afterwards, I’ve seen so many photographs of her, of Madeleine since, I think it was a photograph that had been taken of her and a relatively number of weeks before and I think with a slightly different, slightly longer hair, erm but it was, it was a fa, it was a fa, it was a relatively full on sort of face on photograph, err and it was printed on a standard size erm four by six err inch, as you know, using the equipment that the people had and we ran off a number of copies of this, erm and several I think were given to the, the GNR”.
00.20.21
1578
“I was going to ask you the next question”.
Reply
“Sorry”.
1578
“Was, who did you give the photo to”?
Reply
“Yeah well I think the ones that I had, I took, you know cos obviously they were printing out, you know they were slow you know, we really wanted to get them to the Police fairly quickly, so I took the first couple of copies and took those round to, I think the GNR staff, I presume they were the origin, you know original uniformed Officers, it wasn’t the PJ, it was well before the PJ arrived, erm there were other copies printed off which I don’t know where they got to but I know that Mark WARNER, somebody in Mark WARNER made a poster, or at least an A4 err saying that there’d been, you know, there’d been a, err an abduction and that Madeleine was missing and that was circulated around the next morning, so somebody had, had, had that photograph and used it for that poster but I took, I don’t know two or three copies maybe and gave them to the Police. I actually think ultimately there may have been more copies printed off and somebody else gave even more copies to them as well, err and I think some of the other copies were shown, were just shown to people around who were going on the searches but erm personally”.
1578
“The copies that you had, you only gave to the Police”?
Reply
“I gave it to the Police, just to the Police”.



"I think the most important thing is that the model of printer AT was using DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN LCD SCREEN so if printing from a USB stick you cannot preview or select a particular photo. The Kodak model AT was using is designed to dock your camera to it - namely a kodak easyshare camera."

Thank you veritas, that's what I was asking about earlier.
If you can't preview pictures, that would suggest that there only was one picture on the device.
I wonder why that should be and where it originally came from ?



On this date, at 15.00 we went to the Ocean Club where we were received by the Maintenance and Service Manager, Silvia Baptista, and by the Mark Warner director, John Hill. We asked them to show us all the printers and photocopiers existing at the OC, which were operational at the time of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and that were used to print colour copies of Madeleine’s photo.

Silvia Baptista informed us that at the request of John Hill and his wife D****, hundreds of colour copies of a photo of Madeleine McCann were printed on 4th May 2007 with the aim of distributing them in Pda L and Lagos. For this purpose a colour photocopier, Toshiba, in the main OC reception was used as well as an HP laser printer, HP Color Laserjet 2840 located at a desk at the Ocean Country company, a colour laser printer Epsom Aculaser C1100 located on the desk of the administrative secretary and a colour laser printer HP Color Laserjet 1600 located on John Hill’s desk.


On his part, John Hill informed us that the printing of large quantities of Madeleine’s photo was carried out by himself with the help of his wife, at the request of Russell O’Brien, a member of the McCann’s group of friends, John Hill stated that the photograph the colour prints were made from a mobile data disk of the “memory stick” kind that Russell O’Brien gave him on the morning of 4th May.

They both stipulated that these were the only colour printers and photocopiers in existence at the Ocean Club and that there was no other place with the capacity for colour printing.



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00.18.35 1578 “Did you have any photo of Madeleine in your possession”?
Reply “Erm we got a photo of Madeleine later on but this is two hours later, erm”.
1578 “So who gave it to you”?
Reply “Okay well certain, I’m not quite sure what the, the initial, the question made it sound like whoever had one in our possession anyway, I didn’t, erm we got a, we erm, after a portion of my searches, we got hold of erm Kate’s camera, err looked through the digital cam to try and find a picture of Madeleine reasonably recently, reasonably face on and, and with her being the main, the main character on the photograph, erm clearly that that was going through, there were quite a few pictures that were not ideal, so we, we went through those, err and then printed that off, erm all of this taking a reasonable amount of time to try and get hold of equipment and have offices opened and etc., etc”.

Why does he come across so unconvincingly when asked a simple question?

Maybe it was the "who gave it to you" part of the question and he had to stop himself saying "Gerry gave it to me on a USB memory stick"
From this snippet of ROB 'rogue' interview..he seems to have gone all dumb since the 3/5 when he asked AT for the data from his USB stick...I still think there is something in this sequence of events that could well be the gatekeeper to the bigger picture,..we're getting warm..as threads that are often closing in to a hot topic get the cold troll shoulder.....keep digging!!!

Umm, ‘And Kat or one of the other Nannies went to their flat to retrieve a printer or something that would connect to a printer and then the pictures were printed in the office off the small reception portal’, there’s a little office in there”.



Who were those present that were handed these postcard images? Why wasn't none of the OC employees present? What did JH mean by distributed to other sites...Was there evidence of this? Why NO mention of the AT account of things? Was JH really first notified at 22;28..why were witnesses that night saying they saw him much before 22;30? Why was the PJ so slow in ascertaining this printer and the relevant USB stick...the same stick OB fails to recollect in his 'rogues' interview [so we are lead to believe]? Who was AT. Receptionist, Child Minder, or Service Manager? Where is she today?

There's some questions for start



sans wrote:
The USB Anywhere connects two mass-storage devices....blah, blah, blah

You don't actually believe that do you?
So you think he looked through the images on KMs camera, selected an image, whipped out his "Belkin USB anywhere device" connected it to KMs camera, connected a USB memory stick to the other end, downloaded an old photo of Madeleine to the memory stick, then found someone with a photo printer that unfortunately only docks with Kodak easyshare cameras - but fortunately you have already downloaded the photo to a USB memory stick that this printer does read so you can plug your memory stick in and print off the required images of the missing girl.
Well done sans, it's always the simple solutions that sometimes get overlooked.

ROB wouldn't know what a "Belkin USB anywhere device" was if it came up and bit him on the a***!




Different direction to approach this period: Firstly ROB is not willing to co-operate in a direct manner that is obvious by the rogue interview and the omission from earlier statements...
What we don't know or has been described is the particular actions of ALL those sitting in the esplanade on 3/5...we have first reactions then nothing..so lets reconstruct the scenario from the alleged last visit 21;30 to the alarm by K at 22;00[official narrative]...we know the group headed back to the apartment...except DW..we then have interjections by OC employees who mention G&K and the odd mention[later rogue statements] DP & FP..

What I'm trying to deduce here is the whereabouts of MO & OB during the mallee? We seem to have lost them? I have taken the fact they have children which we must except if your friend is one childless your first reaction would be to check your own are still in their beds asleep..So if we allow for the women to head back to their respected apartments..we must concur the men would be out in the search parties that were organised by the OC & GNR and independent groups of citizens helping to find M...

OK! Now we have set the premise..we anaylsis what is official stated of the timeline between 22;30 -04;00.
Who saw MO or DP searching? Who initiated the idea of the photograph being printed? Did OB..who can't even remember the name of the nanny or item he was handing to AT.. at around 0;00h by her account...Who was present when OB was handing out these 6x4 postcards? We have yet see an independant witness statement that can corroborate this!

This was alleged the GNR officers were in receipt.. according to ATs statement..but if the early memory stick episode was not the same photo-printing situation JH is asserting in his statement what time did print photos of and by who's authourity?...We have the new shift[00.00h] worker @ the reception..who fails to recollect this printing session....Are we looking at this incident from an indicating to it being premediate? I'm starting to think along those lines...at this moment in time...

What OB is at pains to avoid is implicate any over person in offering the photo/s the manner in which was dwnloaded etc, which is strange.. in any normal abduction the innocent person/s would be bending over backwards to give clear constructive information/details if it would help get the little girl back ASAP...I'm shocked if those 'rogue' interviews are kosher? based on the obvious stuttering and incoherent answers given the person OB is certainly showing signs of cover-up..Shame the LP haven't the B alls to re-interview this guy.more

To stress again the role I believe JH was playing that night should be worth a shining a spotlight on. He obviously forgot to omitt the time he first heard about this incident if other co-workers witness him there @OC well before 22;30!...I think he's also implying a much later situation in regards to the photographs in order to suppress the AT&OB earlier encounter...
What is vital for us to progress on this line of inquiry is the so-called 'others present' that AT is quoting as seeing in the reception loca..Who were these people? Where are their statements? Did they notice OB and his memory stick?...What were the 'real images' that were printed and on what/who's say so? OB should have been pushed harder on this.by the PJ/LP.

The notion that a younger child image is more alike to the present weeks photos which were on the same memory card in the same camera.. is an absolute joke to suggest by OB..did the police officer fall off his/her chair on hearing this?

Has AT visitd recently the Mcs house or met in confidence a member of the Mc team? Why was she noted by fellow employees out searching with them?..Again the premise of this investigation must come back to who witnessed the meeting between OB&AT that night? Who were the others present who were given these initial photos? At what precise time did the last photo get printed? Who choose that particular image and at what PC was the image uploaded to the memory stick which AT asserts?



Ask Rus for a through explanation on how he come by the memory stick and it's contents..you will be pleasantly surprised to his answer?




It's the whole notion of distributing photos of Madeleine when it's past midnight and pitch black that's incredulous.

So you find a 3 year old wandering on her own and you have to cross reference with the image they were distributing! As if PdL was awash with babies wandering the streets on their own.

It was all part of the 'abduction' story - same as 'close the borders' and 'which way is Morocco?'



Alex Woolfall in the days after:
"They were trying to work out what to do that might help generate images of her. They were desperately keen to publicise her face.”
The McCanns had photographs of Madeleine on their digital camera, which Mr Woolfall began transferring to a laptop computer. “I said to Kate, ‘Let’s try to identify pictures where her face is visible’. Downloading the images was a very difficult process for them. It was upsetting.
(...)
Mr Woolfall transmitted the photographs to the Press Association in London, from where they were distributed to the media. The portfolio included the now famous image of Madeleine wearing a hat on a tennis court.

So why was this apparently done twice? once by ROB and later by AW?



he states that he does not know as he stayed with his daughter E**e O’Brien in the apartment.

I'm going to stretch my neck out and argue, RoB was not the person who confronts AT with the memory stick that night...It was another member of the group.



3 times seemingly, (according to ROB,John Hill, and AW.
ROB/AT on the 3rd May/early hours of 4th May.
John Hill later still on the 4th May.
And AW some days later.



Yes good point Nicked, someone (say ROB) could have already uploaded all the camera images to let's say a laptop in order to then download the selected image onto a USB stick for printing, then even if that laptop was in the friends' apartments and available to K&G, if it didn't have an email set up connection AW would have needed to upload them from camera again on the laptop they then used to email them to media.

It does seem unusual that amidst such chaos, someone would be uploading images between 10-12 pm instead of searching.


RoB makes no comment on who uploads the initial memory stick..read his 'rogue statement'..as this man omits the event in his PJ [2]07 statements...

Skeptical...Yes there were [3] PDL photo-printing sessions...What is under discussion on this thread is the 0;00h incident concerning AT & OB & the 20-30 prints
OB states he spent NO time searching camera images for downloading on to a memory stick... this only becomes apparent in that rogue interview some 11 months after the fact...Anyone care to explain why this was?



RoB makes no comment on who uploads the initial memory stick..read his 'rogue statement'..as this man omits the event in his PJ [2]07 statements...

Skeptical...Yes there were [3] PDL photo-printing sessions...What is under discussion on this thread is the 0;00h incident concerning AT & OB & the 20-30 prints
OB states he spent NO time searching camera images for downloading on to a memory stick... this only becomes apparent in that rogue interview some 11 months after the fact...Anyone care to explain why this was?



Interesting Tripz - maybe they used "Belkin Anywhere Paper"?

Most portable photo printers can read directly from camera memory cards. You pop the card in a slot and they have a small LCD screen for selecting images to print.

Is it yet another co-incidence that the portable printer available was a Kodak Easyshare, which is designed to dock with Kodak cameras, therefore does not have an LCD screen and does not read memory cards.

It seems as if RoB was psychic, as he made sure the selected image was transferred to a USB memory stick which just happens to be the only other way you can print from the easyshare without docking a kodak camera to it.

Personally I don't buy sans_souci's idea that RoB just happened to be equipped with the "Belkin USB anywhere device" and he doesn't mention using a laptop to download the image.

I think the only thing he was equipped with was the "Belkin Bulllshit Allthetime Device" which seemed to be readily available in PDL at the time.



We have a problem people ...It's established the memory stick/camera memory card are incompatible to the Kodak printer belonging to AT. We have NO evidence of people who were present at the OC reception receiving this 20-30 postcard photos of M? We only have a GNR officer observing these prints on a table in the Mcs apartment? AT you are pwned!!! Tripz.
"It's established the memory stick/camera memory card are incompatible to the Kodak printer belonging to AT."

That is incorrect.
The Kodak printer cannot read camera memory cards unless they are in a compatible Kodak camera, but does have a slot for a USB memory device.
Using the USB stick, you cannot select which picture to print . The printer would attempt to print every picture on the stick.
According to the PJ, there would appear to be 2 different images printed.




When she came close to the elements of the GNR she found that behind her was Gerry, Madeleine's father, accompanied by another man whose identity she doesn't remember. Then Gerry kneeled down, hit the floor with both hands, positioning himself as if he were a praying Arab, and screamed twice of anger, what he said being impossible to understand.

Then Gerry stood up and accompanied her (the witness) and the other man in the car of the GNR to the apartment 5A.

She entered the apartment and asked for the passports of all elements of the family, and also photographs of the missing girl. She went with Gerry to the GNR car to hand over the requested documents.



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Amy Ellen Tierney ~Creche Worker
When on the night of 3rd May, at about 24.00, she was at her desk at the Tapas bar, inside the resort, when at a certain time, one of the friends of the McCann couple, Russell, asked for a USB memory stick reader, in order to print photographs of Madeleine. Immediately the deponent replied that she did not have an USB reader, but that she had a printer with this hardware[?], which could read from memory sticks.?

She went to her room and returned to the Tapas with the printer where she printed out 20 to 30 photographs of the girl
, using her own paper, in 10x15 format mentioned previously. The memory stick containing the photos belonged to the McCann couple, and came from their camera.
She thinks that all of this took place at about 24.00 on 3rd May 2007. She presumes that she handed all of the photos to Russell, who distributed some to those present, the rest would be for the police authorities.

I believe the above statement was taken in April 08? How clear and polished from the earlier one by AT..We now know the memory stick belonged along with the camera to the MCs..Everything one suspects by this time would be easily corroborated..how a golden chance was squandered back in May/June 07.... [/color]



Why would RoB approach Amy Tierney at midnight with his USB memory stick when according to Ms Batista she had already given photographs of Madeleine to the GNR?



Russell O’Brienn doesn’t mention the photso to Amy Tierney in his firt tstaement:


RoB statement 11.05.07
[excerpt]
and the deponent with some other people decided to start looking around the apartment blocks, and in the apartments, to see if they could find Madeleine.
• In the searches they carried out, after the disappearance, they did not identify any element/person/or suspicious object.
• Because he is asked, states that he cannot describe the state of the children’s room after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, because he never entered there. When they were alerted to the situation, they immediately left the table, and the deponent immediately began searching the immediate areas, heading towards the village and the beach zone.?
• Questioned regarding if he noticed whether the blind to the children’s room was up or down, states that he cannot answer because he did not look. He remembers that when he went to check on his children, together with Matthew Oldfield, they were talking and did not look to the windows.
• Questioned whether he knows if Matthew Oldfield went, or not, to check on the McCann children, he states that he does not know as he stayed with his daughter E**e O’Brien in the apartment, but heard, after, a comment that he was supposed to have gone, but that in the checking, he went to the outside of the door to the room, saw the twins, and not Madeleine McCann’s bed, which was situated at an angle which did not give him visual contact.
• States that he has no suspicion to present, and doe not remember any detail of situation that could be related to the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann.
[source:DVD files]

Zilch.....Nothing.... 

Monday, May 3, 2010

Letter from Madeleine Foundation to Jim Gamble 3 May 2010

Mr Jim Gamble Monday 3 May 2010

Chief Executive

Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre
33 Vauxhall Bridge Road
LONDON
SW1V 2WG


Dear Mr Gamble

re: (1) Freedom of Information Act 2000 Questions

(2) CEOP’s close relationship with the McCanns - New video produced by Jon Corner and released by the McCanns, using images of Madeleine McCann with make-up and jewellery

We write to express our concern about the images of Madeleine used by the McCanns in relation to Madeleine on the recent video made by Jon Corner, which they released yesterday to much fanfare.

We do so for a number of reasons, including the very close nexus between yourself, CEOP and the McCanns (to which I shall refer below), and also of course because of your role as Chief Executive of CEOP, an organisation apparently dedicated to eliminating or minimising all forms of the exploitation of children.

The Madeleine Foundation is a membership organisation founded in 2008, partly to help learn the lessons from Madeleine’s disappearance, not least to campaign against the practice of leaving very young children on their own, thus exposing them to all manner of serious risks, not least that of being abducted. In a context where the McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said as recently as 19 February in a Channel 4 interview that Madeleine’s disappearance remains ‘a complete mystery’, we also continue to work with others to try to establish what really happened to her and we campaign on a number of child welfare issues.

The video in question features three images of Madeleine. One very striking one shows her in an unusual pose, shot from well below her face, wearing make-up, including much blue eyeshadow, lipstick and jewellery, and looking unhappy.

The McCanns have claimed that ‘the photo shows her when she was three after a raid on the dressing box’. However, it is very unlikely that Madeleine could have put the necklace on herself, nor applied eyeshadow in the manner shown in the photograph, nor applied the pink bow to her hair. The evidence from the photograph suggests that an adult made her up and of course an adult was on hand to take that particular image of her. Even if Madeleine had ‘raided the dressing box’, it is one thing to take a photo of something like that for your family photo album, but altogether another thing to release it for millions to see.

The McCanns explicitly approved the very public release of this video. As one newspaper reported: “Parents of Madeleine McCann, who went missing three years ago, have released a new video and photo of their missing daughter to mark the third anniversary of the girl's disappearance”. The photo the McCanns specifically chose to feature was the one with Madeleine made up, apparently by an adult and not by herself.

There has been strong adverse reaction by many members of the public to this image being used in connection with a missing child. Not least was that of Mr Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police detective and now leading criminologist and child protection expert, who has often in the past spoken with strong sympathy and understanding for the McCanns. His unambiguous reaction to this particular photograph yesterday, and promoted on his ‘Twitter’ blog, was that it was ‘so inappropriate’ and ‘so damaging’. With respect, we agree with him.

The McCanns have from the day Madeleine was reported missing claimed explicitly and on many occasions that Madeleine must have been abducted by a paedophile, or paedophiles, often described by them as ‘predatory’, ‘evil’, or ‘ monsters’. Yet the photo of Madeleine featured by her parents shows a child looking much older than her actual three years, due to the make-up and jewellery, as all the news media yesterday quickly picked up.

You may recall statements made by the McCanns claiming that they were advised by the police ‘not to show any emotion’ in front of the cameras. As one newspaper reported around the time the McCanns appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show: “The couple also admitted they had been advised not to show any emotion while in front of the media, because any potential abductor ‘may get a kick out of it’.”

It is therefore a matter of concern to us that the McCanns should project and promote an image of Madeleine which might well appeal to certain paedophiles, some of whom are unfortunately attracted to young children.

The general topic of the early sexualisation of young girls has recently been addressed by the Home Secretary, to whom you report and who appointed you. As a Guardian editorial earlier this year noted:

“It is a year since Jacqui Smith invited the TV psychologist Dr Linda Papadopolous to head a ‘fact-finding’ review. Her report describes a world where young girls who can barely walk are first cajoled into wearing high heels and T-shirts with Playboy motifs, before progressing into a grim future dominated by an internet-based youth culture that pressurises them into dress and behaviour which defines them overwhelmingly as sexual objects”.

The Home Office report stated: “The evidence gathered in the review suggests a clear link between consumption of sexualised images, a tendency to view women as objects and the acceptance of aggressive attitudes and behaviour as the norm”.

I enclose a copy of a letter sent yesterday to the chief public relations manager for the McCanns, Clarence Mitchell, expressing our concerns. In the light of the exceptional degree of publcity given by CEOP to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and your own high degree of personal involvement, we would request you to give appropriate advice to the McCanns as to whether it is right to use these particular images, and especially the ‘make-up photo’, to draw attention to a missing child. We consider it sets a most unfortunate precedent if the one girl whose image has most frequently been used by CEOP to promote concerns about missing and exploited children should now be portrayed by an image which clearly shows her lookijg like a much older child (as the press realised straightaway) and wearing make-up applied by an adult.

May we also draw your attention to one specific comment made on ‘Twitter’ yesterday: “If CEOP endorse this type of public relations for a supposed missing child, then their role in child protection has to be questioned!” This is your opportunity to say unequivocally on behalf of CEOP and on behalf of missing children everywhere that CEOP does not approve of the use of such inappropriate images.

Your degree of commitment, on behalf of CEOP, to the McCanns, has been immense, despite the doubts prompted by their being made ‘arguidos’ and being pulled in for questioning and the contents of the interim police report of senior police inspector Tavares de Aleida.

You have heavily featured Madeleine McCann on your website and in other publications about your work. You appeared together with the McCanns 12 months ago in a one-minute ‘viral video’, strongly emphasising that Madeleine was still alive and needed to be found. You also appeared on morning news shows side by side with the McCanns.

You also invited Dr Gerald McCann in January to be the keynote speaker at a conference of the abduction of children by paedophiles, a matter that concerned many of us, as there is not a shred of evidence that Madeleine was abducted by a paedophile. On top of all that, Home Secretary Alan Johnson recently asked you to recommend a new British police force to carry out a review and possibly a re-investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance and, according to press reports, you have already delivered your recommendation to him. In view of this intense activity on behalf of the McCanns, then, you are without doubt in a powerful position to advise them as to their choice of images being used to remind people about Madeleine. We trust you will provide suitable advice to them.

The role and activities of CEOP: Freedom of Information Act 2000 requests

We understand that CEOP has a role as a police force and has powers to investigate alleged crimes relating to missing, abducted and exploited children. We have also seen recent publicity in which, as we understand it, you have advised children, young people and their parents to report possible crimes against children such as ‘internet grooming’ directly to yourself and not to their local police force. We have also seen recent publicity in which you have publicly threatened ‘Facebook’ with various sanctions if they do not adopt your suggestion of a compulsory ‘panic button’ linked to your website.

We presume that as a public authority you must be covered by the Freedom of Information Act and therefore under the FOI Act we ask the questions below. If you are not covered by the Freedom of Information Act, we trust you would answer our questions anyway, as they are clearly in the public interest:

1. What legal powers are available to CEOP and its staff?

2. Under what powers can CEOP insist or encourage children, young people and their parents to report alleged crimes to CEOP rather than to their local police force?

3. What action does CEOP take if they have reasonable grounds for believing that an offence against children has been or is being committed; do they investigate and if necessary charge the offender themselves, or do they refer cases to the local police service, or does it depend on the circumstances? If so, what are the criteria for deciding whether a case is investigated by the police or by yourselves?

4. What campaigning work, if any, has been carried out by CEOP to stem the rising tide of the sexualisation of young children, upon which so many commentators have remarked recently?

5. How many staff does CEOP employ?

6. What was the annual cost of CEOP for the last year for which figures are available?

7. Please refer us to any campaigning work CEOP has done on the risks to children posed by known sex offenders released into the community or to any statements made by CEOP on this issue.

8. Has CEOP expressed a view on current proposals, supported at the last annual conference of the Liberal Democrats, to allow 16- and 17-year-olds to view pornography and visit sex shops; if so, please direct us to where any such statements may be found.

Finally, to the extent that CEOP is effectively addressing the main issues concerning missing, abducted and exploited children, we fully support your organisation’s work and I would be pleased if you could kindly send us a paper copy of your latest annual report.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely

Tony Bennett,

Secretary

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